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Wow, could this have been any more heavy on the femmeslash? The whole Cassidy helping Kate thing only makes sense if they were fucking. And hey, who's going to write that?

Also: Juliet getting socked in the face? Getting fucking whipped by Kate? So damn sweeet!

And so... what was with the flashes from the monster? It's the paparazzi now?

And do NOT tell me Sawyer needs help in sucking up to people. HE FUCKING CHARMED AND SEDUCED PEOPLE FOR A LIVING FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS OR SO. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. Except, OMG, a Sawyer/Desmond scene! So, Desmond's the new Locke? Does that make Sawyer the new Boone? Oh no, he's the new leader..... and a very gullible one. I mean, I guess I like that in a way but oh, hang it all. Sawyer being socially awkward has never made sense. Bleah.

I liked the scene between Kate and her mom. It was a nice way to bridge the gap between what we've already seen.

And ha, Juliet reciting the facts she knows about Jack and insisting that Kate doesn't really know him? Yep, ficced it. (Kinda.) And ahh, Juliet, you duplicitous bitch. She had the key all along. Why on earth would Kate take pity on her?

But, of course, poor brokenhearted Jack does! *sighs* Maybe it's him reliving the Sarah cheating on him trauma. *sighs again* Sayid is so right. Juliet should not be going back with them. She's still the enemy! They still can't trust her. At least all the Others are gone now, so that's kind of a mixed blessing. Except she's the one I wanted gone the most!

And next week: Juliet: "If I tell you everything I know, you'll kill me." Sayid: "What do you think I'll do to you if you don't?" YES! And I suppose I shouldn't be so gleeful in recalling that he has actually tortured women. Not that Lost would ever actually go there.

I am so torn about next week. Jack and Sawyer in the same scene after 15 fucking episodes and 11 months apart! But ... it's a Juliet ep. Dammit, why couldn't she just run off into the jungle with Danielle?

ETA: My theory: Juliet is a plant and absolutely not to be trusted. What would the Others want with them now? Eh, who knows? And hey, wouldn't everyone want to relocate to the nice Others village? What is it with the Losties always having to go back to roughing it?

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eponine119
Apr. 5th, 2007 06:14 am (UTC)
LOL. You're so funny, and so right. The monster as paparazzi kills me. And yeah, Cassidy helping Kate made no sense whatsoever. Them getting it on is as good an explanation as any.
halfdutch
Apr. 5th, 2007 06:21 am (UTC)
That was a total pickup scene outside the store there and then "I'll give you a ride if you buy me a beer." !! And they're hanging out in hotel rooms together? Yep, they were totally getting it on. And now we brace for the Kate/Cassidy/Sawyer fics!

isis2015
Apr. 5th, 2007 06:21 am (UTC)
And ha, Juliet reciting the facts she knows about Jack and insisting that Kate doesn't really know him? Yep, ficced it. (Kinda.) And ahh, Juliet, you duplicitous bitch. She had the key all along. Why on earth would Kate take pity on her?

I was thinking during that scene, as Juliet was going through that list, that, were I Kate, I would have said, "Yeah, okay, that means you know about Jack. That doesn't mean you know him. There is a major freaking difference."

*sigh* I have to admit, this episode may have pushed me from Juliet-apathy to Juliet-dislike. I'm not at hate yet, and it isn't really about her, but about how I don't like how Jack is with her. I don't like what it means that she and Jack were the ones walking together when Jack (not the most trusting of fellows) has known and trusted Sayid and Kate for much longer than he has her. There is no way Jack is that heartbroken over the Skate sex or that stupid over the pretty blonde girl. :/ I never minded if Jack felt some sense of loyalty to Juliet. I just mind if his sense of loyalty to Juliet is stronger than his loyalty to people who he has lead and lived with and trusted since long before he ever knew her. So, keeping that in mind, I wouldn't exactly be sad if something heavy fell on her.

Jack and Sawyer in the same scene after 15 fucking episodes and 11 months apart!

I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but I think I've failed. Am I wrong, or was it Jack that Sawyer saw walking up the beach? Or was that Kate? I couldn't tell. Actually, I'm so starved for something, anything that I don't care if they don't speak to each other at all, so long as they, like stand close to each other or something. It has definitely been way to long when I'm sure I'd be satisfied with even that.
halfdutch
Apr. 5th, 2007 06:28 am (UTC)
I have to admit, this episode may have pushed me from Juliet-apathy to Juliet-dislike. I'm not at hate yet, and it isn't really about her, but about how I don't like how Jack is with her.

Agreed. Absolutely. It's like this whole season has been about creating distance between Jack and everyone else and I am NOT buying it. He absolutely would have more loyalty to them then he's showing. This is totally out of character and it's just to push this stupid new romance along? *sighs* I hate it when they prioritize some lame romantic storyline over what the characters would actually do. I mean, yeah, he's hurt and he feels kind of betrayed, but no more than Kate and everyone else should feel about his being ready to leave them all, even if it was ultimately to try to save them all. I don't buy that Jack is this petty and this disloyal.

And I think that is Sawyer spotting Jack first but of course he's hugging Kate first. Given how distant Jack is acting towards Kate, he's hardly going to give Sawyer a warm welcome. :-/ So he's going to go hang out with Juliet and it's totally going to be Ana all over again. Watch, ha, Sun and Jin will totally bring Juliet a fish! And there's going to be some dippy music montage.

But I'm very glad that Sayid does not trust her. YES. Go, Sayid! As the only one who's not personally involved in the romantic quadrangle, he has the clearest head and he's so right to suspect her. For all we know, she's been planted under Ben's orders. I trust her about as far as I can throw her.
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kools_pad
Apr. 5th, 2007 06:40 am (UTC)
Oh thank god. You didn't like the "ZOMG HES BEING NICE" stuff either. In season 1 and some parts of 2, Sawyer showing shades of concern or kindness was interesting. But not this 'fangirls wanna see him be the lovable awkward guyZOMG!" Sawyer.

The flashback sucked. I liked the Diane/Kate scene though. But i always love it when someone tells Kate to stop bullshitting everyone. I also loved that Juliet laid it out for Kate. Told her everything about her lame little love triangle.

Kate and Juliet were fun to watch though. Reminded me of season 1 Jack and Sawyer. That rivalry over a romantic interest, sliced in with alot of real animosity. And the fact that they are stuck with each other. Although, props to Jack and Sawyer. They never got into rampages of fists and dislocated shoulders over Kate.

Same thing can't be said for Kate. I couldn't believe she just fucking snapped just because Juliet starts talking about Jack on a personal level.
halfdutch
Apr. 5th, 2007 06:45 am (UTC)
Oh thank god. You didn't like the "ZOMG HES BEING NICE" stuff either.

Dear god, no! Lame and contrived. And c'mon. We saw him beaming at the newborn Aaron and reading to the lil whippersnapper.

I didn't mind the flashback even though it only works, as I said, if there's a lot more going on with Cassidy and Kate. As it is, yeah, not buying it.

Juliet ... she's definitely better away from Jack but I'm really only interested in seeing her being revealed as more evil than Ben. And good grief, Jack's had a personality transplant during his time in Othersville. Not buying his throwing his lot in with Juliet istead of Kate. Bleah. Not just because i don't like her, but c'mon, he's known her maybe 2 weeks, at least half of that with her being distinctly *not* on his side. Yeah, right. But then again, he didn't hold a grudge against Ana ever. I guess it's only ever okay to hold a grudge against Sawyer. Or, in this case, Kate. And yeah, I don't buy Kate letting Juliet get to her so easily either.
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missdarksoul
Apr. 5th, 2007 06:50 am (UTC)
So he can read people will enough to make up cons where he can perfectly predict what people will do and sue it against him but can't work out when the guy who can't spell bodies is tricking him? Serouisly people! Though I guess that its a lot easier to trick people into liking you when you haven't spent three seasons screwing them over, still Sawyer has never been shown as socially awkward, self loathing yes but that self loathing has more to do with the 'why daddy why did you screw me up and leave me to have mono for months living in a trailer where you only get one channel, leaving me to drop out in the 9th grade and owe guys money and become the man that was responsible for you screwing me up' then 'oh god, i'm so ugly and fat and people don't like me, nooo!' ok so, i completely forgot what i was talking about

Juliette ep, damn it!
halfdutch
Apr. 5th, 2007 06:54 am (UTC)
Hey, long time no see! How are ya? :)

Yeah, them having Sawyer as a social misfit makes zero sense. He's able to con for years and even on the island -- but only that once and now he's back to being clueless? GOOD GRIEF.

And yeah, Juilet ep. I hope they kill her at the end of it, in keeping with tradition of previous doomed Jack love interests! No such luck, I bet, unless EM gets arrested for drunk driving.
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xphile101
Apr. 5th, 2007 10:50 am (UTC)
Juliet is definitely a plant and not to be trusted - Sayid's got the right idea with the interrogation. Of course, she's in with the Others and his interrogation didn't really work on Ben, so... plus, she's got Jack on her side. I don't think he'll torture her, though.

The only way that I can figure why Sawyer fell for Hurley's little plan (when c'mon, even I saw through that) is because out in the real world, where he's the con man, he has a choice about who he interacts with and who he doesn't. (We did see him walk away from the one con after he saw the couples' kid.) Now he's stuck with these people and realizing that, although he doesn't want to, he does need them around and maybe even sort of wants them to be around. Plus, he doesn't have Kate to be his liason right now.

The monster just confuses me. It took pictures (or whatever) and then gets turned back by the supersonic fence. Huh.
halfdutch
Apr. 8th, 2007 05:42 am (UTC)
Oh, oops I missed this comment! Jack seeming to trust Juliet just KILLS me. And not in a good way. I'm relying on Sayid to save the day here. If she snows him then, well, I will definitely be throwing things at the TV.

And hmm, yeah, I could see where Sawyer might believe they were gunning for him after what he did but the part that bugged me the most was that he had to have Hurley tell him *how* to suck up to people and that's just ridiculous. The man made his living off conning people and charming them into bed and out of thousands of dollars. No way he can't convincingly lie about how pretty a baby is. It's just -- insulting, really. That and I'm sick of storylines that are just comic relief for Sawyer. Meh. He and Jack both seem to have lost about 20 or more IQ points this season.

Eh, I don't care about the monster. Unless it eats Juliet. Then I'm buying it drinks!
emiliglia
Apr. 5th, 2007 11:04 am (UTC)
Sawyer being socially awkward has never made sense.

I didn't like that either. Only thing I could think of what it was just that particular moment because he thinks Sun went and told people about what he did or something. Although no one's still mad at Charlie. WTF?

Jack and Sawyer in the same scene after 15 fucking episodes and 11 months apart!

I didn't want to know what happens next week but that's actually something I can look forward too! Yaaaaaaay there shall be porn after next week!
halfdutch
Apr. 6th, 2007 02:08 am (UTC)
Yeah, Charlie gets off scott free and Sawer's the big bad wolf? Eh. Although, that was mostly Hurley trumping up a mob mentality to scare Sawyer straight.

I have a feeling that we're all going to be disappointed in next week's reunion. Judging by the way Jack treated Kate, he's not going to be remotely friendly towards Sawyer. He might not even talk to him... :-/
inthekeyofd
Apr. 5th, 2007 01:30 pm (UTC)
Juliet got whipped but Juliet also cut Kate deep..emotional versus physical..I think it's almost even.

Plus she totally conned Kate as well, so point there too.

Honestly, I've been saying it since she came on, while I may like the character JULIET IS A FREAKIN' OTHER..not to be trusted..who in the hell would give her free reign in their camp? wait..Jack would.

Anyway, in a way, I'm sick of seeing "torturer Sayid" I mean is there no one else who can question her?

For me the highlight was Sawyer seeking Sun's forgiveness..something he really never did..without reason other than the fact she's a friend.

Hurley, I wasn't a fan at all of the means in which he got Sawyer to be the leader..Sawyer seeking approval and acceptance, it was sort of painful to watch.

But at the same time proved a point, at least for me, that no matter how they show Jack, as leader or not, as nice as he is, I think deep down Sawyer is just as nice and a lot warmer person.

But that's just me thinking that. *smile*
halfdutch
Apr. 6th, 2007 02:05 am (UTC)
I wish Kate wouldn't let Juliet get to her ... *sigh* Juliet is so not to be trusted. Jack giving her the thumbs-up is a bad, bad idea. At least Sayid has his head screwed on straight her and doesn't just blindly trust her.

Sawyer seeking approval and acceptance, it was sort of painful to watch.
Yeah, I know. :-/ That was pretty clunky. I do think Josh is a warmer person and that comes through in Sawyer. And then there's the Southern charm thing! When he wants to, Sawyer can melt butter with that smile and I think Jack is a lot more uptight and closed-off and has never tried to charm anyone in his life!



gottalovev
Apr. 5th, 2007 02:17 pm (UTC)
HE FUCKING CHARMED AND SEDUCED PEOPLE FOR A LIVING FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS OR SO. GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK.

thank you, thank you. it made absolutely no sense and I was way pissed.

And ha, Juliet reciting the facts she knows about Jack and insisting that Kate doesn't really know him? Yep, ficced it.

I clutched to that idea, believe me. ;)

I would not trust Juliet either. Sayid needs to take over the leadership, he's the only one with a brain it seems!

halfdutch
Apr. 5th, 2007 11:25 pm (UTC)
Sayid is totally the only one who's thinking clearly because he isn't being sucked into the apparently mind-melting, emo-making vortex of doom that is the JKS triangle. *le sigh*
demonqueen666
Apr. 5th, 2007 08:05 pm (UTC)
Sawyer being socially awkward has never made sense.

THANK YOU. What the hell was that?? Sawyer sweet-talks and manipulates people for a living, bitches. He's played, like, everyone on this island at least once. And all of a sudden he doesn't know what to say to Claire? Yeah. Whatever.

Also: was the monster absurdly loud compared to the past this week, or was that just me? I swear, it sounded like it's added about five news sounds and twenty decibles to its repetoire.
halfdutch
Apr. 5th, 2007 11:24 pm (UTC)
Sawyer's sudden social ineptitude on the island has never made any sense! But hey, it's not like he's the only one who gets to suffer radical pesonality changes at the drop of a hat, as it suits their plotting needs.

And hmm, perhaps the monster is closer to its source? Or it's really turned on by chicks in handcuffs, heh? And darn fence! I totally wanted it to eat Juliet!

And your icon never fails to crack me up!
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zelda_zee
Apr. 5th, 2007 08:08 pm (UTC)
Next week is a Juliet ep?? You're fucking kidding me. We just had a Juliet ep. Gawd, what a freakin' waste. The boredom's gonna kill me.
halfdutch
Apr. 5th, 2007 11:15 pm (UTC)
Alas, I am not kidding. I imagine the interrogation will be the setup for all the flashbacks. And yeah, her previous ep completely failed to make her a more interesting or likable character so ... yeah. I seriously doubt they have anything interesting to reveal about her. Maybe someone else will get hit with a bus! Maybe they can run her down with the Dhama hippie van! :) Hee, can't you just see it? Then they just throw her in there with Roger and walk away, whistling!
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rogueapprentice
Apr. 5th, 2007 08:31 pm (UTC)
My theory: Juliet is a plant and absolutely not to be trusted. What would the Others want with them now?

Abso-fucking-lutely. Jack, JACK, how stupid are you?! I really would like ONE episode where I'm not SCREAMING at the TV, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING, DIPSHIT?!

And hey, wouldn't everyone want to relocate to the nice Others village?

YES! I thought the same thing! Here's this nice place with room for 50 people, with a big fence to keep the smoke monster out, and that's not even counting the running water, pool tables and comfy beds. I know *I'd* sure as hell be crashing there.
halfdutch
Apr. 5th, 2007 11:18 pm (UTC)
Jack is acting like SUCH a dipshit. One shag with Sawyer should not be enough to make Jack turn his entire back on everyone he's known for the last three months. Do they really mean to imply he's that disloyal and childish. It's not like Kate was even ever WITH him. He has no claim on her at all. Yeesh.

And I know, I would totally be saying "let's take over the town." I still can't get over no one missing the hatch. These guys love their beach all right. I think it must be an aesthetic choice, to keep having those pretty ocean backdrops. Just think of all the drama with who's shacking up with who in Othersville though! And with all the cameras! Drama and intrigue galore!
alemyrddin
Apr. 6th, 2007 09:48 am (UTC)
And do NOT tell me Sawyer needs help in sucking up to people
Well, I totally thought that too, at first. He conned people, he lived off his charm for years.
However, IF they are not preparing another dark turn for Sawyer (and I hope not), that could be maybe another hint of the fact that he has changed, and he is not comfortable in conning people he knows and has started caring for. Maybe I'm just a sap, and I let myself be lead where the authors want me, but I'm buying it.

And ha, Juliet reciting the facts she knows about Jack and insisting that Kate doesn't really know him? Yep, ficced it. (Kinda.)
I was watching that scene and your fic kept popping up in my mind... and Kate's smile at the end of Juliet's speech proved that she was thinking the same thing: people are not just what they have done.
At the same time, I think it shows that Kate never cared a lot about getting to know Jack.

I loved Sayid's distrust for Juliet, and I hope someone will listen to him, but I didn't find Jack's behaviour out of character.
I mean, it's not like he is saying that he loves Juliet or something like that. He is giving Kate the cold shoulder, and I thinks she has earned it, with more reason that after THP.
As for Juliet, Jack being Jack wouldn't leave anyone behind, and he has already made a sort of alliance with her against the Others. He was leaving with her on the sub, so I think it just makes sense that he wants her to come with them at the beach.
She is still enigmatic, and I think you are probably right about her being a plant, but I understand Jack's behaviour.

And hey, wouldn't everyone want to relocate to the nice Others village?
Well, I find the village so creepy that I wouldn't live there...*shudders*
But maybe they would. Anyway, they have to go to the beach and tell them first, I think.
halfdutch
Apr. 8th, 2007 05:35 am (UTC)
Jack definitely gave Kate and Sayid the cold shoulder and pointedly walked with Juliet instead. And that makes me sad. He seems to be blaming Kate for everything and all she did was try to save him. And what has Sayid ever done to him?! Whereas all Juliet's done is try to use him to save herself, at the very best. So yeah, no mystery where my allegiance lies and it pains me that Jack is so quick to switch his. I really hope we see that he hasn't completely lost his senses there, just to further this new romantic angle. :-/

And I don't like seeing Sawyer get saddled with these lightweight B-plots. I hate it when they make him too stupid to realize what's going on or doing these stupid slapsticky things. Meh.

And I think they're definitely staying on the beach so the show can keep its pretty ocean views.
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foxxcub
Apr. 6th, 2007 07:20 pm (UTC)
Trying to be as coherent as possible...

I guess I'm immune to the femmeslash, heh. I thought the mud wrestling was gratuitous and would've chalked it up to male-driven writing, except a woman co-wrote the ep! And you're right, why would Cassidy still be out doing petty cons without Sawyer? What does that get her? And if she's all bad-ass con artist now, she should know better that to trust anyone who's mixed up with the law. If I were her, I wouldn't have given Kate a second glance. Unless I wanted to fuck her. Okay, I think I see your point. *face palm*

"You broke his heart!" Please. Whatevs. Jack was so not that broken up about teh sex in teh cage. Surprised and taken aback, sure. A smidge hurt/confused, probably. But ZOMG HEART IS DEAD!!!!1 ? Nope. That's pure melodrama right there. Or Juliet trying to work Kate over in some mindfuck.

Bleh, that's all my brain can handle right now, sorry.
halfdutch
Apr. 8th, 2007 05:38 am (UTC)
The only way the Cassidy thing makes sense is if she wanted to relive the thrill of her life with Sawyer, methinks. Including the hot motel-room sex!

I do think Juliet is trying to mindfuck Kate because if Jack *is* suddenly brokenhearted over Kate, then yeah, whatever, ya big, dumb pussy!
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