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I spend the whole hour (well, 40 minutes) crying over Charlie's imminent demise (yes, if that makes me a sap, so be it!) and then it looks like Desmond's going to sacrifice himself instead. But no, Charlie IS a hero and he can't let him do that. And he's all set to die nobly after all and then ... CLIFFHANGER REPRIEVE.

You can't work an audience up like that and then leave them hanging. So ... he doesn't die? I am not really spoiled so I have no idea. If they shoot him now, that's hardly the noble, sacrificial sendoff, is it? Which must mean he's safe. I mean, to kill him now would be beyond cruel, right? Or, at least damned annoying!

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*hugs* to all the Charlie fans who are probably rather emo after this episode!

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And I'm glad Jack had a plan but it still doesn't explain why he didn't go flirt with strategize with Sayid right away!

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What was up with that long, anguished look between Jack and Sayid? Does that mean Jack doesn't want to be a leader? Are there things he wishes he could tell Sayid, if he could? Is he really Jack again? Or still?

I was dearly hoping that Juliet WAS evil because she's just kind of blandly annoying (and still as smug as ever) if she's not evil. Of course, she still can be evil, right? Maybe just the one calorie of evil.

Also, why were they WASTING their precious dynamite on a demonstration? Why not just say "Here, piles of dynamite, to be used judiciously on our enemy?" Seriously, what kind of secret battle plan involves only Danielle and Juliet? The "we need to stall as long as we possibly can and then for about two weeks more" plan by the writers, that's what.

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corellianjedi
May. 17th, 2007 04:37 am (UTC)
Also, why were they WASTING their precious dynamite on a demonstration?

THANK YOU!!! That was buggin' the hell outta me.
halfdutch
May. 17th, 2007 04:46 am (UTC)
Yeah, a clear case of writing to make the show "exciting" and "visual," and not reflecting the actual circumstances of the island. And dammit, how much dynamite do they even have left? They've got a Jack Bauer level of things that go boom!
bachlava
May. 17th, 2007 04:56 am (UTC)
What was up with that long, anguished look between Jack and Sayid? Does that mean Jack doesn't want to be a leader? Are there things he wishes he could tell Sayid, if he could? Is he really Jack again? Or still?

It minds that in his mind, he and Sayid are So Doing It. This whole mess has developed because he's been too uptight to let go of his inhibitions and woo Sayid's sweet beautiful self. I mean, really!

Juliet is evil, no matter what. Dharma-shark fic! Dharma-shark fic! Please please please please please!

Agree with the dynamite analysis and the cliffhanger frustration 100%.

Think Hurley, Bernard, and Jin could all be canon fodder. Would be sad to lose the pretty of Jin, although they've really abandoned his character. Too bad, because he's so much more than just pretty. And Hurley can be so much more than just fat...
halfdutch
May. 17th, 2007 05:05 am (UTC)
LOL, well I can see that! ;) But seriously, Jack looked really torn, like he wants to confess something to him. It can't just be "Okay, I'll go do this leader thing instead of that leader thing." Or maybe he's afraid Sayid could be hurt...? Hmmm.

LOL, I'd love it if Juliet got offed. EM wasn't at the ABC upfronts, so that's something.

I could lose Bernard easily. I cannot stand his and Rose's "cute" bickering, although I did love how amused Sayid was by it all. Jin I wouldn't miss much either, since he never has much to do besides look worried and mispronounce stuff. Hurley! They can't kill him! The fans would rise up and protest!

And this episode was really the only Charlie backstory I've ever liked and then they have that lame ending ... gah! And I thought they were going to kill of Desmond instead, which would have been a surprise but still, well within what they'd set up and I would have been okay with that. This is just ... insulting.
cmere
May. 17th, 2007 05:04 am (UTC)
YAY for the hugging caps! That was my favorite saddest part. :( And then...not.

Seriously, what kind of secret battle plan involves only Danielle and Juliet? The "we need to stall as long as we possibly can and then for about two weeks more" plan by the writers, that's what.

LOL TRUE.
halfdutch
May. 17th, 2007 05:07 am (UTC)
I know! It's not right to get someone all worked up and then at the end say, "Ha, ha, he's not dead yet!" AGAIN. I mean, I don't WANT him dead but this was really a cheap plot device. Meh. Were they afraid no one would tune into the finale without a cliffhanger?
isis2015
May. 17th, 2007 05:07 am (UTC)
What was up with that long, anguished look between Jack and Sayid? Does that mean Jack doesn't want to be a leader?

To me, that look said a whole, whole lot about how Jack and Sayid feel about being leaders. Whatever they call each other or themselves, in their own ways, they're both leaders. I think that they both see being a leader in different ways, and that argument they had was about that, as well as Jack's look to Sayid before they parted ways. Sayid's plan involved putting people in danger, including himself. I think Jack was worried for their safety, and what it would mean if something happened to them and Sayid, because he was supposed to be the one to stay at the beach, not Sayid. I think it was a mixture of worry and respect in Sayid as a leader.

But that's just my take.
halfdutch
May. 17th, 2007 05:16 am (UTC)
LOL, to me, it said, "You are putting all your trust in me and I don't know if I should let you do that." But then again, I'm pretty much expecting to find out Jack was worked on during his time with The Others, not that I want that or that he even demonstrated that so much this episode. It just seems like nothing else will fit what we've already seen, especially showing us "The Room" with Karl and then Jack being so cryptic about that week.

But hey, we're all used to taking subtext and running away with it.

isis2015
May. 17th, 2007 05:20 am (UTC)
Well, yeah, that's kinda what I meant, just not in a "Jack's evil" way but more like a "if I let you do this, and you die, it'll be my fault because it should have been me" way.

Maybe I'm just desperate for Jack to be Jack again, but I don't think I'll care if the explanation even makes sense as long as Jack is Jack again. I think he was more Jack in this episode than he's been in a while, so I'm trying to be hopeful and optimistic that the odd way he's been acting this season is over now.
halfdutch
May. 17th, 2007 05:27 am (UTC)
Jack definitely seemed like his old self tonight, which made me happy. (And he was actually interacting with and showing concern for his old friends which he hasn't been allowed to do in a long time, apart from the beach reunion.) I'm fully prepared to write off his recent questionable behavior as just a lame plot point designed to drive suspense and the quadrangle stuff and close the book on it.

But I just feel there are nagging loose ends to be tied up yet and it IS a Jack episode and they did promise something "shocking." I'm not sure what the longterm ramifications of his having been compromised in some way would be and I shudder to think but at the same time, they always need new and dramatic conflict and that would be a doozy. It would really be gambling with the audience and their lead character. And to leave a question like that -- where Jack's loyalties really lie -- up in the air for the next 8 months would not be good. But I wouldn't put it past them, especially after tonight.

So ... yeah, we'll see!
inthekeyofd
May. 17th, 2007 05:41 am (UTC)
I'm sticking by my theory that Jack is either an Other, but the big Kahuna other, or is tied to them..that's why he wants them all gone, Ben has made a mess of things and he has to get rid of them. You have to give it up to me though..I don't give up easily. *smile*

And he did have a plan *smile* But if he was working with Rousseau who has more ties to Sayid, why not at least tell him???

I was worried that Charlie would leave Desmond partly in the water, that freakin' Dharma Shark scares me..and I know no way would I go in that water with that thing swimming around out there.

She may not be evil, but Juliet has one annoying look on her face a lot of the time, I don't mind her at all, it's that almost like she's saying, "see how easy this is, now do you understand it" It's hard to explain.

One thing I don't understand, remember how explosive it was..Artz sure does..how did she not only get so much and why are they using freakin' so much per tent, I mean wouldn't 2 do the job.

I like the backstory in this one, they did a great job on it..but that hug, that was a good hug!!
halfdutch
May. 17th, 2007 07:01 am (UTC)
Jack just seemed so haunted and conflicted there ... it really seemed to be setting up a big twist.

And Juliet is very condescending, you're right. And I think one stick of dynamite would more than take care of each tent but hey ... whatev.

I have to agree, this was a very good episode, apart from that trick ending. And the hug was awww, very moving. I can't imagine he'd leave without saying goodbye to Hurley. *sniff*
zelda_zee
May. 17th, 2007 06:21 am (UTC)
What was up with that long, anguished look between Jack and Sayid?

Must be love, baby. ;)

The explosion was so completely gratuitous. I think it was just D & C wanting to make something go "BOOM". But yeah, dumb.

Also, hello? Charlie can't swim!! *eyeroll* WTF?

Actually though, I really liked this ep in spite of the explosion and the Charlie suddenly being able to swim thing.
halfdutch
May. 17th, 2007 07:04 am (UTC)
That look lasted so long and was so haunted ... I really feel they're hinting at Jack's "shocking" secret there. And with Foxy looking so thin these days, there was something very haggard and worn about his expression. He looked liked he'd been going through hell. Although I'm perfectly willing to go with the slashy interpretation!

And it's far too much to expect them to remember any of the stuff they laid out in S1. *sigh* You'd think they'd only started writing the show in S2, the way they throw canon out the window with such blatant disregard. Unless we have to believe now that Charlie lied about not being able to swim and/or, didn't care if Boone or Joanna died. But I have to agree, this was a wonderful, moving episode, apart from the "Ha ha, fooled you," ending.
philomel
May. 17th, 2007 06:33 am (UTC)
Seriously, what kind of secret battle plan involves only Danielle and Juliet?

Right. And let's form that plan with the known crazy lady and the known mole. Can we get any less stable?

Can't look at the hug, can't look at it. *looks*
*lip trembles*

They'd better not kill him off now, because that's akin to one big-ass band-aid being pulled off excruciatingly slowly... and the adhesive getting snagged on a hair.
halfdutch
May. 17th, 2007 07:07 am (UTC)
Urgh. "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me," springs to mind. Except how many times have they fooled us now about Charlie? I've lost count. Here was a way to make his exit meaningful and unbelievably poignant and then they have to go and throw all that way for another "shocking twist." I don't think they can kill him off now. Maybe my resentment over this ending will fade and I'll be glad Charlie's still around (because I really didn't want him to go) but there had to be a better way to keep him around without making us feel used for caring so much. :-/

And yeah, Jack's taste in allies is indeed highly suspect. It really wouldn't take that much extra effort to try to make the show make *sense* in between all the twists, would it? :-/
missdarksoul
May. 17th, 2007 06:39 am (UTC)
I'd rather know what snapped in Jack's mind too make him so willing to be a mass murderer, or maybe thats just me.
halfdutch
May. 17th, 2007 07:08 am (UTC)
Well, he's finally decided it's war, except that he's trusting an enemy who hasn't really proven herself yet. And he wanted to build an army (using his prescribed S2 crush du jour, Ana), so he hasn't exactly been about keeping the peace. It's just that he got so chummy with Juliet and Ben and Tom ... eh. I'm tired of trying to make it make sense! They just wanted to create conflict by having him all googly eyed over Juliet. Meh.
toestastegood
May. 17th, 2007 03:34 pm (UTC)
Guh. That episode destroyed me, so completely. -weeps on your shoulder-
halfdutch
May. 17th, 2007 09:54 pm (UTC)
*hugs* It made me incredibly emo too. Now, I don't know what to think!
demonqueen666
May. 18th, 2007 02:02 am (UTC)
I'm assuming Charlie will still eventually meet the Noble Sacrificial Drowning End, because FAAAATE and DEEEEATH. But still, way to play with my emotions, you guys! *grumblemuttergrumble*
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