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Lost S2 premiere

Because even though I'm hours behind everyone else, I want to write a review too! *stamps foot*

And due to new time change it's too late to talk to foxxcub. :-( And sis didn't answer phone, so PHOOEY!

My thoughts:

Ok, that was SO not Sawyer in the shower in that promo, LOL. But we are still promised lots of shirtless Sawyer! *holds prods to promise*

At the beginning, I did NOT think we were in the hatch, but in someone's flashback. Like Locke or Christian. (It looked like the '70s, after all.) And the decor and jumpsuit or whatever was straight out of 'Planet of the Apes'. Dude! I swear they'll be saying that was their inspiration (or Soylent Green, LOL) on the commentary.

I kept going 'it's just like Mari's fic!!' As it progressed, with Jack and Locke arguing over the hatch and then the confrontation in the cave and Jack stepping up and finally being a leader. And Charlie being a stupid ass. Sorry. He's bugging me again, big time.

Shannon rocks. Walt creeped me the hell out. Didn't see THAT coming. Totally thought it would be Boone she saw. CREEEEEPY.

I love Young Idealistic Doc Jack. The floppy hair was inexcusable. Surely they could afford a decent wig? But loved "I'm intense." YES YOU ARE JACK. And that's why we love you. When he has that moment with Sarah, "I will fix you." Gah! See, any other actor couldn't see that for me, but Foxy did. And then it was totally doctor-patient recovery sex when she discovers she can wiggle her toes. Oh, Jack. You never had a chance, you big sensitive, overachieving goob. *pets him* I still want to know why she's no longer in the picture. I'm thinking the pity marriage blew up, she left, he hit the bottle. In fanon Jack's been a runner and yes, canon too now! Can canon alcoholic!Jack be far behind?

I no longer like Kate. She's gone over to the dark side (Mari, again!) And I just read a new interview that makes me think, yep, Evi -- don't like her. At all. So, yeah, as of this moment, I wouldn't care if another female presented herself to Jack, it's just ... urgh. I wish it had been different casting. :-/

Electricity! You think Sayid could have followed the damn cable a little more? You got no stick-to-itiveness, Sayid!

Hurley was in a psych ward. Heh.

I didn't expect Scottish guy to turn up again as Mr. Hatch, but was it just me or was the ankle examination scene kind of slashy? Not that I WANT there to be Jack/Desmond slash. *shakes head violently*

I feel like there was less and more than I wanted. Like I knew there'd be no Sawyer but ... dammit, I want my Sawyer! I love Jack but it's all about Sawyer! *Summer Jack lovin' aside* And I am feeling let down. Yeah. *nods again* I am. Not satisfied.

Ok, I'm going to go read everyone else's thoughts.

Comments

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cmere
Sep. 22nd, 2005 05:37 am (UTC)
I didn't expect Scottish guy to turn up again as Mr. Hatch, but was it just me or was the ankle examination scene kind of slashy?

JESUS. GOD. YES. I was like WOW, Scottishboy is totes giving Jack googly eyes.

Not that I WANT there to be Jack/Desmond slash.

Not even Jack/Desmond noncon? Because that's what's rolling around in my head right now. ^_^

I can't even put words to this episode. It made my head explode.
halfdutch
Sep. 22nd, 2005 05:43 am (UTC)
Ha, well if you write it, I'll read it, but won't be my cuppa, probably!

I just want my Sawyer!!! *sobs*

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cici_chan
Sep. 22nd, 2005 05:48 am (UTC)
"I will fix you."

SUCH A WELL DELIVERED LINE OMG. I could feel my insides turn all goobery.
halfdutch
Sep. 22nd, 2005 06:02 am (UTC)
I love Jack. I love Foxy. And yet this ep ... er. I'm disappointed.

*sigh*
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eponine119
Sep. 22nd, 2005 06:00 am (UTC)
Was the Evie interview you read the new Rolling Stone one? Because, yeah...I like her even less now than I did. Which wasn't very much.

Walt was just creepy.
halfdutch
Sep. 22nd, 2005 06:05 am (UTC)
Your icon! Love it! ;-D

I'll post the article - it was in Life magazine from a few weeks back and found it cleaning up my apt. It kind of sealed the deal after various things I've been hearing about her.

Like, she vacationed in Rwanda? WTF? She comes off as very full of herself and kind of clueless, at best. Oh dear. About a third of the cast on the show is now actively bugging me.

*sighs*


rogueapprentice
Sep. 22nd, 2005 06:05 am (UTC)
So, yeah, as of this moment, I wouldn't care if another female presented herself to Jack

Is the Evie/Kate hatred momentarily outweighing the Ana Lucia/Michelle hatred? :P
halfdutch
Sep. 22nd, 2005 06:11 am (UTC)
They're about on par. I don't want EITHER of them around right now. Sarah is suddenly looking awful good and she didn't love Jack either!!

I just want Shannon and Sun!

Maybe I'll feel differently tomorrow or next week. We'll see. I don't know why I'm having this sudden strong reaction. You know, I hated Kate after WTCMB too and suddenly couldn't write from her POV or write her sympathetically for ages. I got over that eventually.

*tries to put things in perspective*


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philomel
Sep. 22nd, 2005 06:05 am (UTC)
Because even though I'm hours behind everyone else, I want to write a review too! *stamps foot*

*gives you blanky and a cookie* ;) The more reviews, the better. We've got a week until the next one, anyway! (*whimpers*)

At first, I thought it was a boat. Bunk bed, close setup... boat cabin-esque. *shrugs*

I thought for sure that, if we were going to have another Jack flashback dealing with her, we'd get some insight into why they split up. Oh well. Next time, please?

Just curious (not judging or starting anything, I wouldn't do that)... what made you not like Evi? I'm assuming this is the RS interview....
halfdutch
Sep. 22nd, 2005 06:14 am (UTC)
I thought we'd find out about Jack and Sarah's split too. In the meantime, we're free to speculate. I was disappointed at first that this was the story of their meeting but I was surprised how much I liked how it played out.

The Evi thing - not sure if it's from RS but it's the 'vacationing in Rwanda' (!!!) thing and then this other article I read that I'm going to post where she came off as really full of herself. Eh. Maybe I'm overreacting. I don't know.

*flails*

killerweasel
Sep. 22nd, 2005 06:06 am (UTC)
Walt was very creepy. My mother got all freaked out and changed the channel which made my brother yell a lot. (I watch in my room and no one can fiddle with my channels, dang it!)

Desmond is a bleh name, but the guy was hot. And he was very touchy all over Jack's ankle.

OMG Jack's hair was very bad in the flashbacks.

Locke was pretty dang creepy too.

How much do I love Hurley? *snuggles him*

Wish there would have been Sawyer.
halfdutch
Sep. 22nd, 2005 06:17 am (UTC)
OMG, anyone would die who tried to change the channel during Lost in my house!

I did not see Psycho Scottish Guy coming. Hmmmm. I just thought it was a case of 'stranger gives strangely insightful advice' in the flashback.

Locke is EVIL. I've said it all along.

Hurley is the only one making sense half the time.

SAWYER!!! It's really not an ep without him. Which is maybe why I feel so let down?

arabella_hope
Sep. 22nd, 2005 12:37 pm (UTC)
Gonna reply quick before work b/c it's not fair that you had to wait.

Electricity! You think Sayid could have followed the damn cable a little more? You got no stick-to-itiveness, Sayid! HA!

I'm with you totally up to the two points on Jack/Kate. Though I had a BIG hunch as soon as I saw that 'Execute' dusty key (why was it dusty if he's using it?). It still was creepy though.

I want to be more shocked! Knew the Hurley thing, love that he told him and "yeah. Your's sucks!" You tell him, Hurley. *shouts* Jaaaaaack???? Get a goddamn personality! "There's a glass?" That's your idea of flirting? Ugh.

Sorry...not trying to rant, it just sorta annoyed me how they portrayed him here. And I'm suffereing some Sawyer withdrawls as well. Was it just me, or was it sorta boring w/ out him?
halfdutch
Sep. 22nd, 2005 03:05 pm (UTC)
Hey, I love even dorky, intense/driven doctor Jack in the flashbacks. What can I say? I just love him.

I'm hoping my love of certain characters will outweigh my dislike of some others and it will all work out.

And yeah, I feel lost with Sawyer. *groans from pun*



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inthekeyofd
Sep. 22nd, 2005 12:51 pm (UTC)
I still have to post mine, so don't feel bad.

I have to mention that wig in mine, it was distracting for me.

Desmond..yeah I thought that was Sawyer in that shower too..one glimpse of Sawyer would have been great-but I kind of like the way they are splitting up the episodes, with the size of the cast it kind of makes it a bit easier for the first few episodes (which could have been easily solved by a two-hour premiere *smile*)

Jack always does the right thing--he needs to break out and totally either kick ass or just let that simmering bad boy come out and really start telling people off--he started with Locke and it should then move to Kate--yeah, like she wasn't going down that hatch--sorry, she isn't a favorite of mine and this season is just continuing it for me.

If she had seen Boone, it would have been way way too freaky--but Walt, that filled that freakiness factor for the show.

Jack just so rocked this episode, really, even with the Hatch, it was really all about him, and honestly, the flashback does give clues to why he is the way he is on the island, but I just so prefer island!Jack. Foxy rocks, there is nothing more I can even add to that.
halfdutch
Sep. 22nd, 2005 03:11 pm (UTC)
The wig was pretty bad but it just made me like Foxy all the more for being able to carry it off. But it was better when he had on a surgical cap or bandana. ;-D I'm in the minority camp in that I almost liked the Jack flashbacks best. Foxy just rocked them. I love him on the island too but something about him when he's younger and torn and such a bleeding heart just gets to me. I love him trying to step up and be tough too, of course, having learned a lot the hard way.

I'm sorry we didn't get to see Sawyer in the shower! Maybe later?

Hey, I'm not really a Kate fan either and she really bugged me here when she sided with Locke over Jack. How much of an idiot is she for doing that? You can't trust Locke! Don't they remember what happened to Boone? He is always going to put his own interests over the safety of everyone else!! I cannot believe she agreed to go into the hatch first. But then again, you can't trust Kate either. At all.

The Walt appearance was definitely my favorite moment. Almost made the whole show.



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ficangel
Sep. 22nd, 2005 01:13 pm (UTC)
At the beginning, I did NOT think we were in the hatch, but in someone's flashback. Like Locke or Christian.

With the bunk beds and the weird computer, I kept thinking 'Sawyer's in college! But this isn't his episode! Bzuh?' until I finally clued in that the creative camera work to avoid showing his face might be for a reason. Sometimes I'm slow like that.

I kept going 'it's just like Mari's fic!!' As it progressed, with Jack and Locke arguing over the hatch and then the confrontation in the cave and Jack stepping up and finally being a leader. And Charlie being a stupid ass. Sorry. He's bugging me again, big time.

He is being an ass, and I don't see a drug-induced fall from grace being very far behind. But, dude, I was so glad that the early chapters went up this summer and I had proof.

And Sarah and Jack...the actors sold that. I love moments when a television series gets its legs under it and the writers started working specifically to their actors' strengths. Ordinary scenes just become electric. Though, man, did the makeup artists have fun making Julie Bowen look like refried hell.

But loved "I'm intense." YES YOU ARE JACK. And that's why we love you.

I especially loved how he and Sarah forgot there was anyone else in the room when he was talking to her before surgery. And all the nurses were "...um?" until Jack looked around all sheepish. So many good character moments in this episode.

Not that I WANT there to be Jack/Desmond slash. *shakes head violently*

I want him to stick around long enough for us to figure out what the hell is up rather than going Ethanator on him. Given the technology he uses and the primal, feral way that Ethan fought, I'm beginning to think that there are more than one set of people who could be called "Others".

I feel like there was less and more than I wanted. Like I knew there'd be no Sawyer but ... dammit, I want my Sawyer! I love Jack but it's all about Sawyer! *Summer Jack lovin' aside* And I am feeling let down. Yeah. *nods again* I am. Not satisfied.

Nothing is quite the same without Sawyer's input. I also think that last season was the big show of establishing these characters, and now they're going to focus on plot more. If they can continue to work character moments in like last night, then I'll be okay with that.





halfdutch
Sep. 22nd, 2005 03:00 pm (UTC)
I also think that last season was the big show of establishing these characters, and now they're going to focus on plot more. If they can continue to work character moments in like last night, then I'll be okay with that.

I'm in this show for the characters, not the plot so much. Maybe that's why I'm so disappointed in this episode. There was something missing for me. Maybe that's not what I wanted to find in the hatch. Or... I don't know. I'm still figuring out why it just didn't work for me.
foxxcub
Sep. 22nd, 2005 02:09 pm (UTC)
YOU'RE DISAPPOINTED?!?! FGHPGFHKTNkb:trhrkB

*ahem* Sorry. :( *pouts*
halfdutch
Sep. 22nd, 2005 02:58 pm (UTC)
Yes.
killanidea
Sep. 22nd, 2005 06:13 pm (UTC)
Im sure next week's ep. will do you justice. *pets* Your probably dissappointed because it was all about Locke-Kate-Jack, two characters which you don't "like" and was more plot biased than chrarcter. And Kate wtf? what happened to "I got your back Jack"?

And I found what someonen said Walt was saying: "Press the button, no one will spare...". um.
halfdutch
Sep. 22nd, 2005 07:43 pm (UTC)
Well, I do like Jack vs. Locke - but the hatch reveal was more scene-setting than an amazing scene of itself. So I'm waiting for the payoff still.

Walt was very creepy and cool. The computer has the potential to be very cool. Of course I want answers. To quote Homer, "I want them now or I want them eventually!"

assassinofjoy
Sep. 24th, 2005 07:34 am (UTC)
I agree with much of what you've said, and I'm also in the "Bring on the Jack-flashbacks!" camp. He very much comes across as Strong Leader but you can tell he's struggling with it, so it was great to sort of see how it leads up to where/who he is now. There were plenty of moments that I liked, but on the whole ... I was disappointed. Most of what we saw played out like missing scenes from Exodus. It didn't really feel like a premiere. Here's hoping next week's show is better (and holds true to its promises of ANSWERS. You hear that, ABC?! I WANT SOME FUCKING ANSWERS, YOU MEDIA LOVING MONEY HOARDING BASTARDS! ... sorry =|).

Moving on...

The "I will fix you" moment ... *sniff* I'm convinced that had any other actor attempted that line, it would have come off as cheesey and stupid. The Fantastic Mr. Foxy pulled it off beautifully, Dorothy Hamil wig and all =) It was my favorite moment of the show, next to Shannon seeing Walt in the jungle. Fucking creepy, and totally thrilling. You know, I hated Shannon for most of last season but I really liked her this time round. Party on, Maggie Grace.

I've never cared for Kate -- it always seemed to me that Kate's just used as filler in most eps because Evie's a media darling right now and that's what the fans wanna see! *snorts* I like her chemistry with Josh and (occasionally) Foxy ... not much else. I can't say that I don't like Evie ... I just don't like that she's hoarding all the covers and interviews when there are more talented members of the cast just as deserving (if not moreso) of the attention. She may be one of the most attractive cast members but talent-wise ... meh. Madison has her beat =X

And a shout out for Locke and Hurley. I feel like one of the only Locke fans in the universe. Granted, the "Island Sensei" crap gets old ... but there's a lot of meat to the character, and at the core he's something of a tragic figure. He broke my heart in "Walkabout," and I love his interaction with the other castaways. His ability to appear both gentle and menacing at the same time ... *has
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I agree with much of what you've said, and I'm also in the "Bring on the Jack-flashbacks!" camp. He very much comes across as Strong Leader but you can tell he's struggling with it, so it was great to sort of see how it leads up to where/who he is now. There were plenty of moments that I liked, but on the whole ... I was disappointed. Most of what we saw played out like missing scenes from Exodus. It didn't really feel like a premiere. Here's hoping next week's show is better (and holds true to its promises of ANSWERS. You hear that, ABC?! I WANT SOME FUCKING ANSWERS, YOU MEDIA LOVING MONEY HOARDING BASTARDS! ... sorry =|).

Moving on...

The "I will fix you" moment ... *sniff* I'm convinced that had any other actor attempted that line, it would have come off as cheesey and stupid. The Fantastic Mr. Foxy pulled it off beautifully, Dorothy Hamil wig and all =) It was my favorite moment of the show, next to Shannon seeing Walt in the jungle. Fucking creepy, and totally thrilling. You know, I hated Shannon for most of last season but I really liked her this time round. Party on, Maggie Grace.

I've never cared for Kate -- it always seemed to me that Kate's just used as filler in most eps because Evie's a media darling right now and that's what the fans wanna see! *snorts* I like her chemistry with Josh and (occasionally) Foxy ... not much else. I can't say that I don't like Evie ... I just don't like that she's hoarding all the covers and interviews when there are more talented members of the cast just as deserving (if not moreso) of the attention. She may be one of the most attractive cast members but talent-wise ... meh. Madison has her beat =X

And a shout out for Locke and Hurley. I feel like one of the only Locke fans in the universe. Granted, the "Island Sensei" crap gets old ... but there's a lot of meat to the character, and at the core he's something of a tragic figure. He broke my heart in "Walkabout," and I love his interaction with the other castaways. His ability to appear both gentle and menacing at the same time ... *has <The Stepfather</i> flashbacks* ... creepy.

Terry O'Quinn rocks my socks.

<i>Hurley was in a psych ward. Heh.</i>

Hee. Party on, Hurley. Party on. *hold up lighter reverently*

Honestly, I never cared about the hatch. Now, my interest <i>is</i> peaked (a little) but I'm not going to get my panties in a twist over it (although Desmond looks fucking wicked). I wanna know what happened to the folks on the raft. I want to see more of Sayid, Claire, Hurley and Shannon. I kind of want Charlie to die ... and stay dead. I want to see Saywer. Shirtless. Possibly pantless. Scratch that.

Definitely pantless.
halfdutch
Sep. 28th, 2005 08:16 am (UTC)
Hey. I'm totally behind on my comments so am just now getting around to replying.

I too am hoping the second ep is more satisfying than the premiere. I'm getting over my disappointment to the premiere, but honestly the hatch storyline just wasn't a priority with me so I guess it's not too shocking I wasn't riveted.

And yes the 'fix you' moment and Walt in the jungle were the two high points for me. Foxy just rocked that scene and like you said, doubt another actor could pull it off as well.

Meh on Kate. I'm actually almost glad she'll be getting some competition from the newcomers and won't just be the undisputed princess of the island anymore.

TOQ is so great. Although I take Jack's side over Locke's (because Locke is either evil or just very misguided and willing to sacrifice everyone to the island), Terry is such a good actor. He totally was robbed of the Emmy.

I want to see Saywer. Shirtless. Possibly pantless. Scratch that.

Definitely pantless.


Totally! I'll hold up my lighter to that! ;-D
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