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Additional "What Kate Did" poll

I read some conflicting interpretations of Kate's motivations about her crime and timing of it. And I think I may be the only one who took it this way. (See below the cut.) What did YOU think?

Did Kate know Wayne was her real father when she killed him?

Oh yes. Fucked up, huh?
Yes. She did it BECAUSE she'd just found her was her real dad.
No! That's why she was mad at faux Dad for not telling her until it was too late!
Wha? I'm confused.

Arguments FOR her knowing ahead of time:
- She said she found out via a photo album. Which she probably discovered before she set the fire. Unless she set it aside to save from the fire.
- She told Wayne-in-Sawyer she killed Wayne because "I hated that you were a part of me. That I would never be good."

Arguments AGAINST her knowing ahead of time:
- Her being so angry at her faux father for not telling her.
- Ummm, I like it better that way? LOL. More tragic?

Either way. FUCKED UP. I think I got it wrong and she DID know. But when I was watching it, the order of the information delivery influenced me. She killed Wayne. THEN we find out he was her real dad.



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Dec. 2nd, 2005 03:57 am (UTC)
I thought she found out because she asked for photos from the army of her "dad" in uniform and she noticed that he was in Korea four months before her mom gave birth to her. She was making a collage or a scrap book for her army dad's birthday and that was why she asked for the pics. I'm assuming she knew all this before she blew up that trailer.

Did I just imagine all that or did that really happen on the show????? You're making me paranoid, Dutchy!!!!!
Dec. 2nd, 2005 04:02 am (UTC)
Oh no, you're right. I put it together after the show, not while watching it. ;-D

At the time I was like "OMG, she didn't KNOW it was her dad!" And I just stubbornly wanted to cling to that interpretation. It's not like I don't skew canon to suit my tastes anyway, LOL.
Dec. 2nd, 2005 05:18 am (UTC)
I thought it was pretty clear that she killed him cuz she knew he was her real father.
But I also have a theory that maybe Wayne did do something inappropriate with her and she was so discusted cuz she found out he was her real dad that she had to kill him. Yeah, that's twisted but she seemed awfuly defensive when the marshal asked if Wayne had coming knowing at her door.
Dec. 2nd, 2005 05:45 am (UTC)
Oh yeah, I just didn't get it until later, LOL. ;-D And I was hanging onto that shock I *imagined* she had in learning she'd killed her father not her stepfather. Just wanted to know if anyone else thought the same thing I did, even for a moment.

The "molested or not" argument has definitely been raging around my flist. I think the writers want to have it officially *not* have happened so as not to make Kate too damaged to be a viable love interest. Because molestation/incest ="icky." But I could definitely fanwank that it happened and she just lied about it, like everything else. She was very defensive about it, true. It would definitely explain the murder better.

So either she had a better reason to kill Wayne than they've shown or she really did kill him in cold blood.
Dec. 2nd, 2005 07:24 am (UTC)
I also wondered if her disgust and subsequent murder of Wayne was because she realized he was her father and that he must have known all of this time he was her father and he STILL kept coming on to her the way he did. It was this disgust that led to her killing him BEFORE he did anything more (or tried). Plus he treated her mother so crappy on top of all that. She also knew she wasn't going to stay there and she couldn't leave her mother alone with that creep.

What I have been wondering was when Sawyer said "I love her" to Jack -- was he speaking as Wayne, was he speaking as Sawyer OR was he channeling someone from Jack's past who was speaking to Jack (maybe explaining something they did that hurt Jack)?? The scene was set to make us assume one thing, but it may have really been something else entirely.
Dec. 2nd, 2005 09:08 pm (UTC)
Right, I now think she killed him because she found out he was her father. But I thought, while watching the show, that she hadn't known. I also don't get the way she announced it to her mom and the guy she had grown up thinking was her real dad. Um, a little secrecy, maybe?

I think the writers want us to think Sawyer was talking about Kate but that just doesn't fly with me, LOL. So I think we're free to come up with alternate suggestions, as you've just done. I don't see WHY he would love her at this point. Especially considering it's Sawyer, who's never loved anyone and seems really incapable of it. Bad writing, if you ask me.

Dec. 2nd, 2005 02:53 pm (UTC)
You know, the writers on this show have done what I thought was impossible...they made me kinda like Kate. I'm sure they didn't intend it, but I think she's way more interesting now that I know she killed her dad *on purpose*. Of course, having AnaL around to be a lightning rod for my hatred probably helps too.

It's kind of weird. Sawyer has been my absolute favorite all along, and I never wanted to see him with Kate because I couldn't stand her. But now that I find her a bit more likeable, I wouldn't mind seeing that hookup. Whatever makes him happy, ya know?

Dec. 2nd, 2005 09:11 pm (UTC)
Wow, interesting! ;-D Go, newly found Skate love! Hee.

I still prefer Sawyer with Jack, of course, but as long as no one ends up with AL, I'll be happy. And yeah, I'd love Sawyer to be happy. But that's not what Lost is about, as we all know. We'll have to just enjoy these rare happy moments while we can.
Dec. 2nd, 2005 05:07 pm (UTC)
I thought she knew. Didn't someone ask her "why now"? (Can't remember if it was her not-real-dad or not who said that.) But I got the impression it was "now" because she had just found the photo albums. I kinda felt like she hadn't seen her not-real-dad in a while.
Dec. 2nd, 2005 09:12 pm (UTC)
Yeah, definitely. I still can't believe she went around talking to both parents after her crime. The whole thing was so amateurish, like the marshall said. How did she get her later skills anyway?
Dec. 3rd, 2005 03:56 am (UTC)
Exactly on the amateurish thing...points to her being either stupid or overly confident (though I'm tempted to blame it on weak writing).
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