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Few (very random) thoughts about Lost

Few stray thoughts I've had about Lost, some post Fire+Water, some prior to the ep.

- Anyone ever read Paul Auster? All his books seem to involve someone happening into a great deal of money, amazing coincidences, and also incredibly bad luck. Wondered if he's an inspiration for Hurley's storyline.

- In the great Jack vs. Locke showdown, as imagined by fandom anyway, (bows to ficangel and themoononastick), it seemed that Charlie would be on Locke's side, without a doubt. Possibly even acting as a traitor at some point. But, after "Fire + Water," that possibilty seems remote. I know the Faith vs. Science Grudge Match has taken a back seat lately, but it looks like it's going to gear up again in "The Long Con." With the addition of the Tailies, I wonder how it's going to play out. I wonder if they'll split up into two or three camps. Or if this is all still hot air and we won't get any schisms at all. But still, what's going to happen with Charlie? He seems poised to do something even more desperate, unless he gets welcomed back into the group. Which, let's face it, is extremely likely. This is one group that can't hold a grudge for more than a millisecond.

- And from the land of "Duh!" I bring you the following observation:  It seems anymore that the backstories are just agony for anyone who doesn't LOVE that character. I mean, I love Jack. Can't get enough. Love every new interaction with Christian. Love seeing who Jack was, pre-island. But even I admit the Sarah breakup was kind of a letdown. And I think unless you're madly in love with Charlie, "Fire + Water" was just a big ball of meh. I think they even fucked up Locke's last backstory. We already *knew* about his father obsession. Got nothing new out of that, except that he's yet another islander who cannot really love or be loved.

- Last few thoughts: Something's definitely up with Libby. I still don't completely trust Eko. It would be fun to see Desmond again. And will we EVER find out what happens when the button doesn't get pushed? Is that the season finale? "John, the BUTTON!" Huge burst of white light. *bamf* Roll end credits?

- And on a personal note, I very much want to be writing smut but I'm kind of woozy. Some kind of darn bug. :-(

 

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isis2015
Jan. 29th, 2006 03:27 am (UTC)
- And on a personal note, I very much want to be writing smut but I'm kind of woozy. Some kind of darn bug. :-(

Oh god, me too. And my mom too. Must be something that's going around because a lot of people I know are getting sick.

I don't trust Locke is who I don't trust. Eko...I can get behind quicker. But Locke's motivation, his antagonizing relationship with Jack (thought Jack doesn't really help the situation), opening a sudden can of whoop ass on Charlie...he has the potential to be very violent and I don't trust as far as I can throw him. Which isn't to say I don't like him. I don't love him, but I'm not really happy with feeling like I have to keep my eyes on him.

Do you really think that people could come to trust Locke as easily as they trusted Jack if this whole Jack vs. Locke really does divide people? 'Cause everyone pretty much started following Jack because that's what they needed and he was the only one that was stepping up. But of this escalates...could they really jump sides like that and march off with Locke? Maybe if Jack intends to use them as cannon fodder, but....I just don't know.
halfdutch
Jan. 29th, 2006 05:41 pm (UTC)
Oh no. Feel better! ;-D

I've never trusted Locke either. For me, that goes without saying, LOL. And Jack isn't always best at confronting him, it's true. But at least I trust Jack and he's always thinking of the greater good. Locke is definitely getting darker and that's scary.

The only one who seems under Locke's sway now is Claire. Kate is pretty damn unpredictable, and if she feels stung by Jack not forgiving her, then she might end up backing Locke, like when she went to follow him into the hatch. But I do think it's going to be not as simple as literally Jack vs. Locke anymore.
eponine119
Jan. 29th, 2006 03:34 am (UTC)
The thing that struck me the most when I read Paul Auster was his style. But yeah, his plots were so weird and twisty...I don't know whether I want Lost to go that far. In some ways they seem to be trying to.

I had the same thought about Charlie during Fire & Water. I think everyone bargained on him being on Locke's side, but now it's pretty clear he wouldn't be. But are they ever going to have sides, or will they just keep teasing us?

I wish Desmond would come back. And my personal theory is that the button's already not been pushed, so things are in motion and they just don't know about it, and maybe that's why everything's been so weird and off this year. When Locke and Jack were fighting over whether to press the button, it was so close, and since it flips to zero on its way to reset itself to 108... Though I like your version too! Much more exciting.

Hope you feel better.
halfdutch
Jan. 29th, 2006 05:50 pm (UTC)
Hmmm. I wonder about their endgame. Although not as much as I used to, by any means, because of the whole 'meh' quality of S2 and their dropping so many promising storylines in favor of, how do you say, complete crap. But I wouldn't be surprised if a trace of Paul Auster was in there. I kind of burnt out on him, as I do many authors. I just read too much in a row and he really does repeat himself.

And I don't think they will have sides now, as much. They've really blown the whole Tailies vs. Fusies thing, if you ask me. The fact that they've blended the two groups without a single incident is just odd. Beyond odd. I guess it could still be coming but on a show like this, why downplay tension and conflict? So now they're making Locke and Charlie darker instead? I don't know. It just makes me tired to think of what they're up to, sometimes, because it's just so frustrating.

And damn, that's a great theory you have there. That would be very cool. Mine is entirely predictable and actually *not* what I want to see happen. I'm really just hoping for the end of the button and that we get a payoff there at last. I JUST WANT SOME DAMN PAYOFFS ALREADY! ;-D I mean, after last week's placeholder ep, it would be nice to fee like they're not completely wasting our time.

eponine119
Jan. 29th, 2006 08:22 pm (UTC)
I'm hesitant to even want payoffs anymore. Everytime they start giving us answers, it sucks and we want them to focus on the characters again. But then when they don't, it's like they're wasting our time. I guess ideally we'd get some of both.
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halfdutch
Jan. 29th, 2006 05:50 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I do feel better today. ;-D
ficangel
Jan. 29th, 2006 03:46 am (UTC)
One: Word to the Nth power.

Two: *general 'feel-better' vibes go cascading your way*
halfdutch
Jan. 29th, 2006 05:52 pm (UTC)
Paul Auster is one of those writers I discovered and promptly O.D.'d on - and he really does have the same themes over and over again. Did he also have some daddy issues in there? *thinks* But "The Music of Chance" - loved that book. James Spader was really miscast in the film, though.

And aww, thanks for the vibes. ;-D Hey, they're working!
themoononastick
Jan. 29th, 2006 03:54 am (UTC)
It's weird - Charlie was the only person who I could imagine would have been, without question, on Locke's side. That's clearly not going to be the case anymore! I kinda think that the Locke vs Jack fight is going to be Locke vs Eko for a while, a subplot kind of thing, faith vs Faith. It seems like they are pulling Locke away from the Jack storylines for now at least. Which is annoying because I want to see the split!
I also think that they seem to finally be turning some of the characters into "bad guys" - Locke & Charlie for example, making them less likeable on purpose to bring in some tension to the group as a whole.

As for Libby - I definitely think she knows who Hurley is. Maybe from being a Dr at the hospital he was in or maybe she knows about the lottery win. I think there's certainly something odd about her. Eko, on the other hand, I trust completely. Don't know why, I just do. And yeah, more Desmond please!

*sends you tea and booze to make you feel better*
halfdutch
Jan. 29th, 2006 06:00 pm (UTC)
Well, now Locke has Claire and the demon baby. ;-D And is there going to be some way the baby is going to factor into things, after all? Or was that all a big feint to mislead us about Walt?

I don't know that we *are* going to get the split anymore. And the Tailies have been integrated so smoothly. Anticlimactic, I calls it! And Locke's always been bad, right? But he's going quite dark now. Charlie, hmm. Don't know what's up with him. Since he didn't go back on the smack ... no idea what they're going to do with his character, but maybe he'll just recede into the background again, now that his contractual episode has been doled out. I just don't see what's going on with him fitting into the larger picture. Maybe that's why the episode was so 'meh' for so many fans. And I guess you could say that about other backstories too, only ... *sighs* Oh well.

I don't buy Libby as being on the level at all. I definitely think she was a patient too. I'm waiting for her to go nuts and start bopping people on the head or something. Seriously.

I don't buy Eko as being completely reformed from his wicked ways. I trust him more than Locke or AL, definitely. Or Libby. But didn't you fear for Charlie's safety at all during '23rd Psalm?" ;-D

*quaffs tea and booze* Thanks!



themoononastick
Jan. 29th, 2006 11:43 pm (UTC)
maybe he'll just recede into the background again, now that his contractual episode has been doled out.

well, now I'm depressed.

But didn't you fear for Charlie's safety at all during '23rd Psalm?
no, not at all actually. I just don't get a scary vibe from Eko, I think he has potential for violence etc but only if really pushed and I don't think Charlie pushed him nearly enough to get him going.

More tea? or perhaps more booze? *offers you both* I hope you are feeling a little better today.
blue_orchidea
Jan. 29th, 2006 04:02 am (UTC)
Auster is pretty popular here. Well in the sense that his name rings a bell while , say, Oprah Winfrey's doesn't at all (thank god for that).

Here's hoping you write some K/S *only* smut soon. ;)

I didn't watch the premiere with the whole "push the button! no you push it! no you!" pissing match (you know me, if i can avoid jackbacks i will) but i've read TWoP's recaps (okay i skipped the jackbacks, heh) but yeah from the moment i read about the button I figured that would be the season 2 cliffhanger. it's quite predictable.

hope you feel better soon. *hugs*
halfdutch
Jan. 29th, 2006 06:03 pm (UTC)
Sorry, it's J/S I'm working on. Some slash-loving friends are having birthdays coming up. ;-D

And the button thing is so silly. I wish it would just go away, so that's why I hope it doesn't get pushed soon. But for it to be the S2 cliffhanger is kind of lame. I really hope they deal with it before that, but probably not.

And TWOP - I'd given up on their recaps because whoever was doing them really hated Sawyer. But now they have someone who's a fan, so that helps. But she's just not as funny as some of the others. She nicknamed "Zeke," "Hairy Guy," which shows a distinct lack of imagination, if you ask me. Oh well. That's why I'm never over there anymore.

And thanks for the good wishes. ;-D
blue_orchidea
Jan. 29th, 2006 07:21 pm (UTC)
i'll stand in the corner, waiting for some good S/K smut anyway. ;) I just hope your S/K muse kicks in before my birthday cause man alive, july is a far away.

we'll pretend there's no button, k?

i totally get what you mean about Daniel hating Sawyer, it bugged me too but i just skipped over it like i do when i see the word "jack" in a sentence. makes for faster reading. hee!!
Erin, formerly known as Regina, is not as funny as she probably thinks. i gave up alias and her recaps at the same time. she gives stupid nicknames to so many things, i don't understand what the hell she's talking about. plus as a vartan hater and Syd/Will shipper, i was rolling my eyes at her own Syd/Vaughn shippiness and vartan love. Blah!
but at least she likes Sawyer, that's something.
i just thought her recap was a one time thing because Daniel couldn't do it. If so, it's back to Sawyer hate in the upcoming recaps.
*bitter sigh*

I don't know what you have but if your throat hurts try smtg simple like warm milk with honey and a hint of cinnamon. works wonders (even without alcohol to spice it up more). ;)
hils
Jan. 29th, 2006 03:03 pm (UTC)
Funny what you said about the button. I posted exactly the same thought a couple of weeks back

http://hils.livejournal.com/1611072.html
halfdutch
Jan. 29th, 2006 06:05 pm (UTC)
Aha! Great minds think alike! ;-D Actually, I so rarely get into spec anymore because I'm just not invested in the show on that level anymore, so by the time I do have a theory, I'm sure everyone's beaten me to it!

I think we're stuck with that as our S2 cliffhanger. Which is kind of lame, really. At least S3 would be button-free, then, which would be a huge relief.

hils
Jan. 29th, 2006 06:56 pm (UTC)
Yeah, death to the button
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