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JOHN! Does Dean know that he traded his life for his? Will Sam ever know?

DEAN!!! Gah! *chokes* Dean bargaining with death ... AUGH. You make me think that's the big sad moment in the show, damn you!

Gah, John's apology to Dean. Did he tell Dean what he knows about Sam and the other kids? Did he tell him what he was doing? I can't see Dean letting that happen, but he must have had an inkling since that was clearly goodbye.

I'm just ... wow. Wrenched. We've lost JDM twice now, dammit and it's fucking cruel. I think I was confused because I briefly saw a spoiler photo in EW that looked like John in the hospital bed, so when it was Dean, at first, I thought, I must have been mistaken about the photo.

I LOVE YOU, WINCHESTERS! Dammit, we need to save the Metallicar at least.

ETA: And now my drunk_fic request of a Christian Shepherd/John Winchester bar convo can take place in a bar in hell. :-/

ETA: #2 Now that I've had two hours to digest the episode, some thoughts:

If Sam had done what John asked, and shot him, in the finale, we would have had the same end result. Except that Sam would have to live with the guilt of having killed his father. And the Metallicar would be fine. But the Demon would be dead. Our boys, our boys are not fine either way. But now they have a bigger mission than ever. This fucking Demon killed their mother and father. And this way, do they even know that John made that sacrifice for them? Is Sam, especially, going to go on hating him? Because he got something in the way of an apology in the S1 finale and Dean got his apology tonight and it just about killed me. And that was after nearly killing me with Dean agreeing to die, rather than become something that needs to be hunted.

I'm going to watch it again, but it's going to be rough. Between this and all the Snow Patrol from the last few days, excuse me for being a little fucking emo.

I watched Grey's Anatomy too (thank you, Bana!) but that just completely pales in comparison.


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Sep. 29th, 2006 05:15 am (UTC)
He is going to be on another show though, but still..I have to watch the whole episode still..it's not my fault, CSI had more Greg and there were some great Greg scenes, including one Greg with his deceptively broad shoulders scene that I had to rewatch *smile*

You know I don't watch Grey's but from what I can gleen from my flist though, Grey's really did pale in comparison..so maybe CSI pulled out the upset ratings.

Sep. 29th, 2006 05:22 am (UTC)
Gah! Between this and listening to entirely too much emo-making Snow Patrol in the last few days, I'm a wreck!!

I don't want JDM on some other show!! I want him on MY shows!

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Sep. 29th, 2006 11:18 am (UTC)
It hurts dammit. I shouldn't be this invested in my TV shows, but I am.

I think John told Dean what he knew about Sam. I wish he would've told Dean what he did, because now the boys will be in even more pain, not knowing what happened, but only having a suspision.

Yeah, it would have been better if they had killed the Demon (and thereby John), last season. But then the main plot would have been resolved.

I think they're trying to see how much angst they can put into the show, if they can break all of the fangirls... Looks like they succeeded :(
Sep. 29th, 2006 03:54 pm (UTC)
It's hard to know what would be worse: your dad sacrificing himself for you and your knowing about it, or thinking he died preoccupied with something else. Gah! It's a little like Jack on Lost, except there's no Sawyer to tell him his dad loved him.

I agree, if they'd killed the demon, a big part of their mission would be over, and this way it's unresolved. There's no other villain they could bring in who would ever have the same resonance.

And yes, consider me broken. :-/
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Sep. 29th, 2006 11:36 am (UTC)
John isn't ACTUALLY dead, is he? I mean, just - NO. It cannot be true. He will be back, I am sure. He just cannot be dead.

I'm not in denial, it's just that he isn't actually dead.
Sep. 29th, 2006 03:55 pm (UTC)
He could be back -- look at the title of the show! And we've seen both Mary and Jess, briefly, so I think there's a good chance. But JDM does have another show lined up, unfortunately. Oh, the cruel fate of acting schedules! :-(

GAH, this was wrenching.
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Sep. 29th, 2006 11:40 am (UTC)
*sobs and clings to John*

I won't believe it. He'll be back. They're gonna work some mojo and vodoo him back. It's a supernatural show, they can do it. *nods and keeps on denying*

And GAH, what about Sammy and other children like him? Did I get that wrong or was the demon really implying that Sam was no threat for him? Why? How? OMG, and John KNEW about it...was that what he told Dean? Maybe Sam isn't John's son, maybe the demon is his father! *pay no attention to her, she's drifted into weird speculation mode*

John not trying to fight with Sam because he knew it'd would be tha last thing he would do...*sobs*
Broken. Me= broken
Sep. 29th, 2006 03:57 pm (UTC)
You know, I totally went there too, thinking that maybe John isn't Sam's real father, but who knows? (Big time "Luke, I am your father," there, if it IS the demon!)

John not trying to fight with Sam because he knew it'd would be tha last thing he would do...*sobs*

*sobs with you*

Man, that was rough. And watching Dean and Sam deal with it isn't going to be a picnic either. But that's why we love our boys. They're so pretty when they angst! GAH!

Sep. 29th, 2006 12:53 pm (UTC)
The dunder-head that I am, I completely forgot to tape the show last night...and I am so pissed about that.

I can't believe they killed off John. I thought he was going to be around more this season. *sigh* Poor guys, now they really do just have each other.

*makes note to tape next week*
Sep. 29th, 2006 03:58 pm (UTC)
I'm sure you can find a download somewhere, if you need a copy. And GAH, i totally didn't see this coming either. This makes the finale last season seem like a day at the fair.

*clings to my orphaned boys*
Sep. 29th, 2006 01:28 pm (UTC)
We've lost JDM twice now, dammit and it's fucking cruel.

AIN'T IT?! How many times must I stand outside smoking a cigarette and wibbling into a snotty tissue over the same guy?! I mean okay, it was some BEAUTIFUL angst, but...but...PAPA W!!!
Sep. 29th, 2006 03:59 pm (UTC)
I know!! Hospitals are not healthy places for JDM!

GAH!! The angst is indeed beautiful, and they already had me crying over Dean but, wow. Way to suckerpunch us. :-/
Sep. 29th, 2006 01:49 pm (UTC)
I don't think that John told Dean about the sacrifice-I hope that he did not tell Dean about the sacrifice-because that would just tear Dean up in a way that I don't think that he could come back from. Of the two brothers, Sam is almost normal in comparison. I really want to believe that he was telling Dean about Sam's secret and giving the mission over to him.

When did this show become so good? It completely snuck up on me.

Sep. 29th, 2006 04:01 pm (UTC)
Dean would not have let John go if he knew what he planned to do. No two ways about it. Here is a family where they are literally all willing to die for each other. *sobs*

Dean is going to be completely broken and gah, they break so beautifully. I think he's going to push himself so hard in finding this thing and in kicking the ass of every beastie he finds that he's going to just snap.

(And I was totally thinking of your fic with them producing -- of course! -- the fake i.d.'s even in the hospital.)
Sep. 29th, 2006 02:47 pm (UTC)
I watched it, but of course, it's hard to be really emo when it's only the second ep I've seen, so I'm not so attached to the characters. Don't you think maybe John will return somehow? That whispering into Dean's ear - you don't know what he said, so it could be anything.

It was kind of cool. Maybe this show will fill the Buffy/Angel gap for me. And maybe if I watch long enough, eventually I'll find one or both of the guys hot. Tho it was probably the dad who would've been the most likely candidate & now he's dead. Damn.
Sep. 29th, 2006 04:04 pm (UTC)
Interestingly enough, I caught last year's wrenching finale after seeing just an episode and a half all season and it totally sucked me in and made me care about these characters. Maybe it just takes the right episode for that? Did you see the finale? Again, it's hard to feel the full impact if you're not already in love with these characters and to know what their current actions mean in terms of their longterm dynamics.

I didn't find either boy hot at first, but they've definitely grown on me and now I love them to bits. JDM was undeniably hot. Dammit!!

And gah, the Daddy issues on this show!

I hope it does end up filling your Buffy/Angel gap for you because I can't think of another show that could do that that's on the air right now.

Sep. 29th, 2006 06:36 pm (UTC)
And that was after nearly killing me with Dean agreeing to die, rather than become something that needs to be hunted.
His dedication to his job is amazing and I was bawling at this point.
Oh,poor baby.I'm glad he got an apology and most important "I'm proud of you." speech,before John died.
*heavy sighs*
Sep. 30th, 2006 05:12 am (UTC)
The level of angst is just, wow. They put us through the wringer here. The hurt feelings and resentments and misunderstandings and then John apologizing and passing the torch to Dean. *sobs* And Sam just refusing to give up on him.

Wow. I can't wait to see where they go after this.
Sep. 29th, 2006 06:56 pm (UTC)

I hate Kripke at the moment... *sniff*

Sep. 30th, 2006 05:11 am (UTC)
GAH! It takes guts to pull that off ... but OUCH. OUCH!

Sep. 30th, 2006 01:23 am (UTC)
I'm still really amazed by how much STUFF was in this epidsode. I had no idea what was coming until the very end, when Dean said John was scaring him and even then...I just wasn't prepared.

And I didn't cry until about three hours later when I watched again. It's strange not to have the same type of background music to manipulate emotions. It gave his death this quiet actually haunting feel.

And that prompt just gets better and better, gah.

They are so broken and doomed and I just can't stop loving them all three.
Sep. 30th, 2006 05:10 am (UTC)
*loves your icon again*

I thought they'd given us all the angst we were going to get just before the end. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER!

I'm glad there wasn't emo music playing. Much as I love GA, that can kind of be overkill sometimes.

They are so broken and doomed and I just can't stop loving them all three.

AMEN. *hugs my poor orphaned boys*

Sep. 30th, 2006 03:40 pm (UTC)
god that ep made me want to go and get Supernatraul icons! I was going insane in that episode, i'm still in shock. most of all i want to know the big secret about sam!
Sep. 30th, 2006 03:59 pm (UTC)
Hey! Wow! How've you been? ;) And yay, another SPN fan on my flist!

Your icon is wonderful but yes, some Supernatural icons would be good too! I checked mine out via spn_newsletter.

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