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Lost: Finale



IT WAS THE FUTURE. A FLASH FORWARD.

That was ... genius. Future fic! Brought to life! Messed-up, suicidal Jack? YES. That is what we didn't get in that lame Thailand flashback (can we all continue to pretend that never happened.) So Kate is still with Sawyer? WHOSE FUNERAL WAS THAT, THEN? And Jack loves Kate unrequitedly now and forever...?

Wow. Of course now I want to see what happened to make Jack so bitter and fucked-up. KUDOS D&C. Honestly, that was just what I needed.

And Sayid didn't die! zelda_zee I felt your excruciating pain for those 20 minutes! But of course Jack was honoring Sayid's wishes.

And Hurley saved the day! And Charlie saved the day! (Did he really have to seal himself in? ;__; *sobs for real this time*)

*whew* Blows out breath.

Unfortunately, Juliet still draws breath ... if they shove Sawyer/Juliet at us next year ... (and wow, it literally will be next year.) But the "Are you fucking Jack already?" "No, are you?" Priceless! Why do the butch chicks always suspect Sawyer is gay? LOL. OF COURSE HE IS.

I need many, many fucked-up, drunken, bearded Jack icons.

I'm a little stunned. This was a very decent new development (although more new characters.) And OMG, I didn't hate Sarah as much in this as I expected to once I saw her name in the credits.

And wow, actual continuity with Sawyer being messed-up after killing Cooper. And now a stone cold killing machine? And Sayid can kill with his feet! *iz impressed* The Jack/Sayid and Sawyer/Sayid (and even Jack/Sawyer) was nice.

*off to decompress and read the flist*

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eponine119
May. 24th, 2007 06:15 am (UTC)
Why do the butch chicks always suspect Sawyer is gay?

That cracked me up! They're just jealous.

Definitely future fic come to life. I (mostly) approve.
halfdutch
May. 24th, 2007 06:36 am (UTC)
It really was like reading one of your fics! Something I'd never thought I'd see come to life! So yeah, I enjoyed that.

And Sawyer is so gay for Jack, everyone can see it but them! ;)
demonqueen666
May. 24th, 2007 06:41 am (UTC)
IT WAS THE FUTURE. A FLASH FORWARD.

OMG I KNOW RIGHT?? I mean, I'm sitting there, trying to figure out where the HELL this fits in with Jack's backstory continuity...AND THEN KATE SHOWS UP. ajkf;kkhgghajfhjf!!!! SHIT.

So Kate is still with Sawyer? WHOSE FUNERAL WAS THAT, THEN?

I DON'T KNOW!!! (And, WTF, Christian is STILL ALIVE??!)

And Hurley saved the day! And Charlie saved the day!

Huzzah for Big Damn Hero Hurley and his Van O' Death!! And, oh, Charlie...I think it was the fact that he was dying and he still tried to tell Desmond the important info. Oh my god. My heart.

And Sayid can kill with his feet! *iz impressed*

Yeah, just imagine what else he can do with them...

"Are you fucking Jack already?" "No, are you?" Priceless!

BEST THING EVER.
halfdutch
May. 24th, 2007 06:52 am (UTC)
It was future fic brought to life! And no, I don't think Christian is still alive. I think that comment was either showing that a) Jack is so fucked-up he's not sure, b) Jack is being deliberately morbid in his humor or c) it *is* an alternate future. Hmmm. *scratches head*

And yes, Sayid lives! Damn those foilers! And pretty much everyone got to be a hero, didn't they? Darn it, Charlie. :-(

Jack and Sawyer need to just do it already. Clearly a future with Kate is not all it's cracked up to be!

kools_pad
May. 24th, 2007 10:21 pm (UTC)

"Jack and Sawyer need to just do it already. Clearly a future with Kate is not all it's cracked up to be!"

Ha! So true.

If 'he' was Sawyer, then wow, Kate really became her mom. Actually being frightened that 'he' would know shes not where shes supposed to, and having to go to a secret meeting place, just to see Jack. Wonder if all that make-up she was wearing was because shes got bruises too. Like Mommy. LOL.

And shes still pining for Jack? And Jacks still pining for her? Thats why that isnt the end. Its basically where we are now. Except 10 times worse. Its almost like their own versions of hell.

kools_pad
May. 24th, 2007 06:51 am (UTC)
The only highlight of that finale, was Juliet saying that to Sawyer. It was funny as hell. Because you're right, he is gay for Jack. The guy is obsessed with him.

I'm suprised you liked it. I really didnt like it. It was kind of appealing in one way, but raised so many soap opera/pointless questions, that it totally took away from any impact it could have had. And the action was anti-climactic. So many deaths and no excitement. Jack got to beat up Ben, which was cool. And that "Locke versus Jack" showdown was SO weak.

I think what makes the 'twist' suck, was, well because it wasnt very good in the first place. Besides it being the 'future', what more was to it? The hero is off worse than when he was at the beginning? Not very intriguing.

So what really made it pointless, was that it was the 'wrong' future. The one the show now tries to prevent, or its the middle of the show. And well see them soon. And they'll have to go back to the island. Either way -- couldnt care less.

And seriously. Does Jack turn Kate on no matter how he looks? He looked like a Heroin addicted unibomber. And shes still trying to control herself from banging him. So now Lost turns into a bad romance novel for real. Now that we saw the 'bad future', we have to change it so that Jack and Kate can be together! ZOMG! YES!

...Sorry for the rant. I was really hoping for a point to all the crap they had this season.
halfdutch
May. 24th, 2007 06:55 am (UTC)
This was so similar to so many wonderful future fics I've read, where Jack just wants to get back to the island, I think that's what made me like it. I never, ever expected to see anything like this on Lost itself.

And hey, speak for yourself! I found bearded Jack hot! ;)

I don't think they will necessarily get back to the island. But that would be an interesting series finale: A few castaways making the conscious decision to go back to the island and stay there. I've always thought the finale would be them getting rescued but now I like that there's something else possible.

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halfdutch
May. 25th, 2007 01:52 pm (UTC)
Look, I've asked you repeatedly not to bash Sawyer in my LJ and you keep right on. I really don't need "friends" who can't respect a simple request like that.
isis2015
May. 24th, 2007 07:01 am (UTC)
I was spoiled for the flash forward. But I was shocked as hell when I read the spoiler. It has a lot of possibilities, and while I'm not sure what to make of what they've done with them (I need a few more days, I still feel a little too close to really know) I think it was an interesting way to go.

My favorite parts of the episode, though, were the Jack/Sawyer elements and the Sun parts. Big surprise.

I just love the growth in Jack and Sawyer that was displayed in the scene where he says he's going back. Jack tried to protect him and told him it was too dangerous, and Sawyer just said, "I wasn't asking permission." They didn't have a pissing match, and yell at each other like they would have done way back when. There was a level of respect there, on both ends, because Jack realized that Sawyer had to do what he had to do and Sawyer didn't get belligerent about it just because it was Jack.

And Sun, well, you know I love everything she does, but I really felt for her when she and Jin said goodbye and when she spent the whole hike worried for him and rejoiced when Hurley said he was okay. But, that's just fangirl me. :)

All and all, I did like the episode. I cried for Charlie, I squeed when Hurley got to be the hero, and when Sayid snapped that guy's neck with his ankles. I think it was good, but I need a little more time to think about what it means in the grand scheme of things, you know? And I have serious trepidations about what happened to get Jack to this place. Is it possible that Ben was right? I'll be mulling that over for the next eight months.
halfdutch
May. 24th, 2007 03:46 pm (UTC)
Ahhh, I'm very glad I wasn't spoiled about that! It was such a wonderful reveal and, I think, very clever.

And man, I was sure Jin was doomed there, with his farewell speech to Sun and his speaking English and all! I was sure Sayid would be okay for a number of reasons and as I was saying to zelda_zee, off-screen deaths never count on Lost because even the onscreen one so rarely do!

And yes, I am very happy that Jack and Sawyer have this mutual respect going on -- it's only taken an entire two seasons to get back there! It was no "Exodus, Part One," but it did really show how far they've come.

I do think that Ben was right about this being a bad thing to signal Naomi's ship but Jack couldn't possibly know that and he had *no* reason to trust Ben. No one does, really, even his own daughter! If Jack had let himself be talked out of it, then I think that would have been bad but this does set up a whole new chain of events. I wonder if we're going to see some time manipulation here, with Jack coming back to this moment to make the opposite decision. Or, at least, wishing he had. Man, I loved future broken!Jack so much, even if it hurts to think how he ended up that way. (And please tell me it's not just because Kate chose Sawyer over him!)

inthekeyofd
May. 24th, 2007 01:16 pm (UTC)
I knew that Charlie was going to die, last week..but I didn't want to spoil it for you...I'm still wondering why he just didn't run out the door and seal it that way.

Love me some drunk bearded Jack..but I do like him clean shaven..which you'll see in my post today.

I'm thinking it was Juliet's funeral.

I really think they totally read our fics.

Sayid was a soldier, they teach him that, and it's about time he got to use it!!*smile*

I don't blame Sawyer in the least, I remember that scene and the havoc that it caused after, Tom deserved it.

I'm glad you liked it, I know I did..they do do finales freakin' great, they do.
halfdutch
May. 24th, 2007 03:50 pm (UTC)
I was pretty sure Charlie was going to die after all and it was still sad when it happened. He was trying to save Desmond, yes, but it does seem they could have made it to the surface before the whole station flooded. And I dont' think he would have thought to seal the door if he hadn't known Desmond's prediction. (And that made me sad but I would have been a *wreck* if that had been Jack and Sawyer!)

Hmmm ... I wonder whose funeral it is. Someone where no one would come to the funeral but who could tip Jack over the edge. And that, presumably, we would care about too? (And I saw your theory about the woman and her son in the accident being Rachel and her son but if that were true, then she would have gone to Juliet's funeral!)

They really do manage to pull out all the stops with the finales. I was SO OVER S2 and then that finale hooked me back in. I was very skeptical about this one as well but I ended up really liking it. I'm still not sure that they're going to treat all our characters right but we shall see.
bachlava
May. 24th, 2007 10:58 pm (UTC)
That was a very believable (if extremely sad) vision of future Jack (LumberJack, as they've dubbed him at TWoP). That said, I'm hoping they don't explore it much more on the show - it feels jarring, not organic to the story. I mean, it could be interesting, but if the show gets into it more, I have a sinking feeling that they'd do a really bad job with it, somehow. It's good for fic, though, especially if... well, you know how all our minds work. (Hmmm...)

Juliet's exchange with Sawyer was indeed priceless. (I think Sawyer's less gay than omnisexual, really...) They've left plenty of plot loopholes for evil!Juliet, and until they're closed up, I don't trust the lady as far as Sun's fetus could throw her.

Cheers for Hurley and for the Sayid slashiness; tears for Charlie; hope things turn out okay for Desmond. Of course, he could always revive Charlie from the dead. Right after he finishes multiplying Jin's catch...
halfdutch
May. 25th, 2007 02:20 pm (UTC)
LumberJack. I love it! What can I say? I loved that version of fucked-up!Jack esp. since we got SuperHappyKiteFlying!Jack on that shitty Thailand episode. So I was fine with the flash forward, even though they left unresolved all the extreme OOCness of Jack for the last third of the season. I'm chalking it up to bad writing and them wanting to pump up the stupid quadrangle and the suspense factor of whether Jack had been flipped or not and the whole "Is Juliet evil" thing.

And I'm still not won over to the Juliet side, even if she's not evil, she's still incredibly annoying. Frankly, I would have been much happier if they'd killed her off. She could have died saving Jack or something. Why couldn't *she* swim out to the Looking Glass Hatch?!!

bachlava
May. 25th, 2007 02:58 pm (UTC)
they left unresolved all the extreme OOCness of Jack for the last third of the season. I'm chalking it up to bad writing and them wanting to pump up the stupid quadrangle and the suspense factor of whether Jack had been flipped or not and the whole "Is Juliet evil" thing.

Sad but true. There won't be canon answers, most likely, just ours. Mine are: Jack has had some serious issues for a long time, decades before the crash, and between the stress, the massive issues, and the hero complex, he was easy meat for the Others; the quadrangle imploded to do miscalculations of acute angles or something; she's so evil.

ven if she's not evil, she's still incredibly annoying. Frankly, I would have been much happier if they'd killed her off. She could have died saving Jack or something. Why couldn't *she* swim out to the Looking Glass Hatch?!!

That is an excellent question. Bai Ling could have helped.
lillyjk
May. 25th, 2007 10:36 pm (UTC)
god Sayid killing with his feet...um um good! I need some new Sayid icons. hmm

and I did love the continuity with Sawyer being all fucked up...and how he just gets quiet and deadly while Jack goes all crazy.

how are we going to make it until JANUARY?

*sobs*
halfdutch
May. 26th, 2007 12:33 am (UTC)
:) I'm glad you got back in LJ in time for the Lost finale so we could squee about Sayid's Awesome Feet of Death together!

And yes, excellent observation re: Jack and Sawyer. Yin and Yang, baby!

We'll just have to porn ourselves silly until January!
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