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The Unpopular Opinions Meme

The Unpopular Opinions Meme
01. Post this on your journal.
02. Your friends will comment with some of your fandoms.
03. In a new post (or in comments) respond back with one or two of your unpopular opinions for that fandom

Cuz I can't sleep (thanks, asshole neighbors), I'm just going to post some responses.

Fandoms: Lost, Supernatural, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Bones, Torchwood, 24, Grey's Anatomy, X-Files.

1. Lost -- I totally thought it was Sun who was going to go instead of Shannon in S1, and seeing what they've done with Sun's story line since S1, I would have rather had it go that way. Although ... I suppose we would have been stuck with pregnant!Shannon then. Babies = very bored Halfdutch.
2. Supernatural -- I like Bela. Which makes me the antichrist, too.
3. Buffy the Vampire Slayer-- The episode, "The Body?" Totally overrated. Not one of my fave Buffy eps. And I was pretty "meh" on Joyce overall, unless she was flirting inappropriately with Giles, Spike or Xander. Oh, and I never forgave Xander for the way he treated Buffy when she got back to Sunndale at the beginning of S3. So I spent the rest of the series being various degrees of pissed-off at him.
4. Bones -- I hated it at first. HATED IT. Especially the Zach character. He's improved since, thank God. Surprisingly, Cam has grown on me and I used to pray she'd be bumped off.
5. Torchwood -- Ianto does nothing for me. I find him about as exciting as a wet dishrag, to be honest! :-/
6. 24 -- Apparently I'm totally out of sync with fandom in that if I click on a (very rare) Jack/Tony that's rated NC-17, I expect to find porn! But this is one of those fandoms where *any* slash fic, regardless of content, is labeled NC-17!
7. Grey's Anatomy -- Well, I'm no longer alone in hating Izzie. So I'll say I don't hate Meredith. Shocking, I know! I'm okay with a flawed leading lady and even though I don't have her exact set of issues, she gets my sympathy. I just don't have the urge to reach through the screen and slap her, the way I do with Izzie!
8. X-Files -- Krycek = not hot.


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Mar. 11th, 2008 12:55 pm (UTC)
Uhm, I can only agree with the Lost one. But well, shallow as I am, I would have only wanted Shannon to stay because we'd have seen Boone in her flashbacks. I mean, it was a guaranteed appearance once per season which would have been enough. Now I feel like I can't even trust Locke to take that LSD again *sighs*

And when I still watched Grey's (I'm really too behind now to take it up again) I didn't dislike Meredith that much.
Mar. 11th, 2008 08:22 pm (UTC)
Yes, losing both Shannon and Boone was too much. I think they should have bumped off someone else, for a change!

And Meredith has never really bugged me. Some of her story lines, sure, but the character herself, nope.
Mar. 11th, 2008 12:56 pm (UTC)
24 seems a very tame fandom! lol! *pets them*

I only found out recently how much the Buffy fandom loved "the Body". I liked Joyce, but as you say, it was really more for her interactions with the guys for me too =D
Mar. 11th, 2008 08:22 pm (UTC)
24 is very tame! And I missed the prime era for my favorite pairing, as it happened about 2 or 3 seasons before I went looking for it.

Joyce was not that fantastic a character. And I liked The Body, I just don't think it was the best ep ever or anything. Other eps have made me sob buckets, that one didn't.
Mar. 11th, 2008 03:15 pm (UTC)
8. X-Files -- Krycek = not hot.

Amen, woman! What was *with* that? Honestly, there were no real slash pairings to be had on the show, so I guess people just stretched their standards a bit? Me, I'd rather go without :P

And I like Bela, too! More than Ruby, even! Clearly, we are evil and must be stopped. *waits for Winchesters to bust down door*
Mar. 11th, 2008 08:28 pm (UTC)
Oh yeah! SO NOT HOT. I agree, people must have been desperate! I watched the show (well, until it started to suck balls) but was never in fandom. I would never have put Mulder with Krycek!

And yes, even if Bela is pure evil, she's a good character. I wasn't feeling Ruby at all at first but I'm liking her more now. And woo, I wouldn't mind the Winchesters busting down the door at all! I'd love to sic them on the bitches downstairs!
Mar. 11th, 2008 04:00 pm (UTC)
Heh, I like Bela too. And here I was, thinking I was the only one.

I never really got the Krycek thing either, and you already know my opinion on Ianto.
Mar. 11th, 2008 08:29 pm (UTC)
Yay, another Bela fan! Liking any females in fandom is pretty damn rare (apart from Ellen, who seems universally loved.)

And Krycek just never did it for me. And Ianto... you're a fan? So many people love him and I just ... don't!
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Mar. 11th, 2008 04:14 pm (UTC)
I totally agree with you on Lost, Buffy AND Grey's. You've got to be the only person I know who wasn't crazy about The Body. I didn't like it all, aside from Anya's little monologue.
Mar. 11th, 2008 08:32 pm (UTC)
Ahhh, I thought you were an Izzie fan. I used to like her but she's become such a horribly selfish little shrew that I can no longer even stand Katherine Heigl. Way to assassinate a character, Shonda! And damn, S2 of Lost was such a misfire on almost every level. *sighs*

I think The Body was fine, but not Buffy's finest hour or anything. It really seemed like they were trying too hard on that one. *shrugs* So many other eps had a bigger emotional impact for me.
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Mar. 11th, 2008 05:11 pm (UTC)
Krycek = not hot.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. He never did a thing for me, but everyone in fandom seemed to think he was the hottest thing ever. Eh, it was a handy excuse not to get into the fandom despite how much I loved the show.
Mar. 11th, 2008 08:35 pm (UTC)
Yeah, he was an okay villain but that doesn't automatically make him hot! The first fic I ever came across was a Scully/Skinner and it was SO BAD it pretty much scared me off all fandoms for the next several years!
Mar. 11th, 2008 06:23 pm (UTC)
Oh, I never thought Sun was going to go. Hunh. I guess it's a toss-up for me. I like them both.

You are the Antichrist! *splashes holy water*

I thought Krycek was hot! Are you kidding? Krycek/Mulder was the only decent slash pairing on that show. Other than Scully/Covarrubias. ;)
Mar. 11th, 2008 07:24 pm (UTC)
I used to love Sun -- I used to like ALL the characters. But her story lines have been either nonexistent or more baby crap. *yawns* I had convinced myself she was the one being bumped off until someone spoiled me that it was really Shannon. :-/

And just because Krycek's the default, it doesn't make him hot! I actually wasn't in fandom then but I was a big fan of the show and was surprised to find out years later that Mulder/Krycek was so popular. Eh, he was too weaselly for me. *shrugs*
Mar. 11th, 2008 06:26 pm (UTC)
1. Amanda is very possibly going to set me on fire for saying this, but yeah, totally with you. I would have preferred that the spiral of killing people without any consequences whatsoever had not started in the first place, but Shannon was totally my girl. Maybe if Sun had been given anything whatsoever to do that didn't involve baby drama? I don't know.

2. Bela is fucking awesome, full stop. I think that there's more going on to connect her to Ruby, too; I think that she's Dean with the familial devotion but without the ethical center.

And it does not hurt that she's utterly smoking.

7. I know, I like Meredith now, too! It's shocking. I even don't mind McDreamy as much as I used to. I think that she's broken in several fundamental ways, but there's a difference between broken and outright selfish, you know? (Hi, Izzie!)

8. Due to fannish osmosis, I read several Mulder/Krycek fics before I saw Alex on the show. I was shocked by the discrepancy.
Mar. 11th, 2008 09:05 pm (UTC)
1. The sidelining of Sun is a damn, crying shame. :-/ And making her all about babies? Yeah, bad move, Darlton. Really bad move.

2. Bela rocks. I have a feeling she's connected to Ruby too -- and not just in the way that Ruby digs girls! (Is there any Ruby/Bela out there, btw? ;D)

7. I like McDreamy when he's madly in love with Meredith - like during the otherwise dreadful three-part ferry ep. And it gives Dempsey a chance to do some real acting.

8. Ha. I wasn't in fandom when I was watching the show, but I never would have gotten hot over the idea of Mulder with Krycek. I mean, yeah, it's dirtybadwrong, but it's not HOT!
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Mar. 11th, 2008 06:28 pm (UTC)
You are correct, ma'am. Krycek = not hot. I liked the character, but hot? Um, no.

Sorry you couldn't sleep. Do you have a stink bomb you could place under their door? :->
Mar. 11th, 2008 10:12 pm (UTC)
I reported the bitches to manger and the city. It might escalate the whole thing but I'm just fucking fed up. Fucking 20somethings! I tell you!

And Krycek is a good villain but not droolworthy, in my book!
Mar. 11th, 2008 06:58 pm (UTC)
Oooh, I'm gonna steal this meme along with your style of just picking your own fandoms right off the bat. =D

I did like Bela... until she stole the Colt and sold the boys to the feds... perhaps she will get pwned again by a supernatural force and I'll like her again. Or we'll learn some backstory. Because I always took the approach with Bela that I did with Sawyer in that I hate/loathe her at first, but once I learn about her shady past and why she's so fucked up, I'll end up liking her, regardless of fandom consensus. We'll see.

I remember "The Body" being good at the time. I don't think I've seen it more than once. It was probably the lack of score that made it particularly epic for most people.
And I swing back and forth on Xander, too. Sometimes he's charming, other times he's infantile and I've never really forgiven him for being so oblivious and hurtful towards Willow when she had a crush on him in the early seasons.

*goes to do meme*
Mar. 12th, 2008 04:46 am (UTC)
Bela is definitely fucked up... curious to see if there's a "redemption" arc in there somewhere. Seems less and less likely, unless she, oh, I don't know, dies saving Dean or something.

I liked The Body, it just didn't blow me away or anything. I don't think it even made me cry. Buffy has made me sob but that ep was just kind of there for me. And Xander was a totally jerk most of the time. He also got puffy and less appealing so on a shallow note, he had less to offer in that department as time went on!
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Mar. 11th, 2008 09:28 pm (UTC)
I never forgave Xander for being such a brat about Buffy and Angel. Divorced from the part of me that ships them, he was still such a jealous, asshole teenager about it. I can't even see his reason for not telling Buffy about Willow's spell in Becoming as anything more than lingering jealousy. I suppose the argument can be made that he didn't want her to get hurt by fighting less hard because she knew Willow was restoring Angel's soul, but I don't buy it. Over the years, Xander became a better character, and my anger faded a bit, but I'm still, years and years removed not over what a prick her was about Buffy and Angel's relationship. Buffy was his friend. He should have at least tried to let her be happy.
Mar. 12th, 2008 04:48 am (UTC)
Xander was an incredibly selfish brat and yeah, not a very good friend. The fact that he didn't understand why Buffy had to leave town after all she'd been through and that he was *mad* at her was just ... "Dude! Are you serious?"

The only time I liked him being overprotective of Buffy was when he faced up to Angelus when Buffy was in the hospital in that one where she had a fever and fought death.
Mar. 11th, 2008 09:45 pm (UTC)
Re: Supernatural - I've liked ALL the women on the show and would've like to see more of Jo, a LOT more of Ellen and their reaction to both Bela and Ruby.
Buffy: I hate Willow. She mind raped Tara. How is that okay? And? I hate how Willow, Xander and everyone else gets a gloss on the horrifying shit they do but heaven forbid that Buffy or Spike are ever, ever allowed to get away with anything. Xander unleashed a demon that killed a good portion of the Sunnydale population in Once More with Feeling and it is never brought up. He killed people!
Bones: I love Boreanez on it but I can't get into it.
24: Tony is Jack's on true love. Period.
Mar. 12th, 2008 04:51 am (UTC)
Wow, you are a rarity in the SPN fandom! I'm not really *in* it as I stared on the show late, but what I see scares me, LOL. There's some nutso, rabid fans there!

Hmm. I don't hate Willow but I did hate that whole "magic = drugs" arc. A LOT. It was just really simplistic and obvious and I nearly stopped watching. I actually was not the biggest fan of Tara for the longest time. Or whoever dressed her and Willow at first! Eep! Ponchos and shawls and full-length skirts? What the well-dressed lesbian co-ed is wearing? Not!

Bones took me a few tries to get into. The characters were really poorly written at first. And some eps don't do much for me, but I do really like it now.

24: Dammit, now we have to wait until 2009 for more Jack/Tony!!
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Mar. 11th, 2008 11:16 pm (UTC)
Surprisingly, Cam has grown on me and I used to pray she'd be bumped off.

Wait, I thought these were unpopular fandom opinions? ;)

I resisted Bones for a long time because everyone was all, "Oh, it's another X-Files!" and I kept saying "I already have an X-Files... it's called The X-Files! I don't need another one!" but then somehow I caught it and just fell head over heels. I know that David Boreanaz had something to do with it.
Mar. 12th, 2008 04:53 am (UTC)
LOLz. Yeah, I kind of have a chip on my shoulder towards most new characters on shows because they are usually useless and annoying (Dawn! Connor! Ana Lucia!) But after a while, I found Cam had stopped bugging me.

And Bones was just not that good at first. It took a long time for them to get the characters right, I think. The first eps are still kinda cringeworthy to watch. But I'm enjoying getting caught up on S1 via reruns.
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