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My Lost finale questions


Verdict: not as good as the first part of the finale. For one thing - Part 1 had the Jack/Sawyer scene! And the teary farewells. And the Walt-Shannon-Vincent scene. This one didn't have a scene on par with that.

Obligatory squeeing: Heroic diving Sawyer! In lowrise jeans! (loves) I do like the pulled-back hair. I like Josh any which way. ;-D I loved him saying "Aye, aye." (Bring on the POTC/Lost crossover fics!) His singing! (dies) Loved him calling Michael "Mike" instead of "Chief" or whatever.

ETA: (Have just downloaded "Redemption Song" and some more Bob Marley. Dudes - Marley has a song called "Exodus." Inspiration for the finale title? And Sawyer singing something called "Redemption Song." That is too apt. Shivers for a second.)

I was really liking Michael this ep. Great to see him happy and lighthearted instead of cranky and uptight. I guess his lighthearted days are behind him for a while! And now I see how his flashback of not even wanting Walt is coming back to haunt him!

I got choked up seeing everyone on the plane - esp. Boone, of course. (sniff) And finally we see Sawyer on the plane! Don't know why that was so important to me but we hadn't see it before, so, yay! (I love fics where someone imagines what Sawyer was thinking as the plane went down. Maybe I'll rec a few at the comm.)

And now for the big questions (which have mostly been discussed already since I'm on the West Coast and I'm only posting now, but hey)

1. Will Sawyer be OK?

To which I emphatically say yes. I am not falling for any kind of panic over whether he lives or dies. Dudes. He HAS to live. For numerous reasons, including the fact that his story arc wouldn't end that way. Yes, he's finally redeeming himself and being heroic even while saying "I ain't no hero." But that's not enough of a set up to kill him off. No, if he were going to sacrifice himself, it would be to save Jack or Kate. Think about it. I don't see any other way that would play out, given producers' comments about how key Sawyer is to the show.

But yes, I yelped when he got shot. I was so waiting for him to start plugging away at the boat full of obviously bad men who very badly needed to be shot. And he didn't get the chance! Or he blew his chance by waiting too long. Maybe he was deciding which one to shoort first?

Eep! Shot Sawyer in the water. Not how I pictured him spending his hiatus! I figured there'd be a cliffhanger with the raft, but not this! Frankly I was expecting something supernatural to prevent them from going further out. I can't imagine that *this* is the storyline that got the most "Oh yes, that's it!" remarks during the writers' story meeting!

But here we all are, talking about it. So I guess it worked. Helluva twist.

2. What do those freaks want with Walt? Did they want him this whole time? And not the baby? Do they know he's "special?"

Er. No idea. Did *not* see that coming at all. I really thought Jin or Michael might bite it, but not that Walt would be kidnapped by creepy fishermen who are dressed entirely inappropriately for a tropical climate, FYI!

3. So... what's in the hatch?

A shaft that leads to ... next season. Lovely. I mean, I wasn't really expecting someone to be in there waving and saying, "Hi," but I expected to see ... something. Like ... oh God, I don't know. More bodies. A lovely decor of black and white stones. I dunno. Or was that creepy infecting-type dust that come out? And what's down there is disease. And um bodies. Right. Can't have enough bodies on the island.

4. What's the deal with the black smoke? Is that IT?

Who set it? Danielle herself? I don't think so. Is it the signal fire for the other survivors, the tail section folks who include Die Ana Lucia Die?

5. So what about the tail section people?

Didn't everyone else expect them to show up in the finale? (Welcome or not.)

6. Will Charlie get back on smack?

I think that's a safe bet.

7. What's the deal with Jin's watch?

Does it also have heroin in it? Secret plans to blow up the Death Star? What?

8. Why didn't Jack punch Locke senseless when he admitted to sacrificing Boone?

9. Why the fuck was Sawyer suddenly so forthcoming with his super traumatic past?

ITA, foxxcub. That was bad, clunky OOC writing. I don't believe it was setting up a Sawyer sacrifice though. (shakes head violently)

10. So Danielle tried to steal the baby before too? o__O

Is confused. So Danielle was with Ethan after all? Hmmm.

Comments

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crystalkirk
May. 26th, 2005 07:34 am (UTC)
I don't think Sawyer had a prayer in the world for actually shooting any of them. No matter how long he waited. When he was jumping around all happy, he clearly showed them his back (with the gun in plain sight) several times. So they were ahead of the game, just waiting for the moment he caught up and so much as moved his arm for it.

Poor guy.

But, yeah, I do agree that he isn't gonna die. I was still all WTFing (and hopping MAD) after it happened, but my rational side kicked in shortly after. Heh. :)
halfdutch
May. 26th, 2005 08:44 am (UTC)
Good point! I knew the blip coming back was bad. Because how could it *not* be?

(fights to give nurse Sawyer back to health)
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philomel
May. 26th, 2005 08:10 am (UTC)
Same here. The thought that this could mean Sawyer's a goner never even crossed my mind. Not possible. The writers know better.

The blip on the radar. I'm glad it wasn't supernatural because that so often falls victim to jokes and is difficult to do well. The people on the boat were rather creepy though, like extras from Deliverance.

I'm guessing that, yeah, they did want Walt the whole time. o_O And Rousseau was the one who acually wanted the baby all along. But how Ethan got involved and whether or not he (or she, as well) is a part of the Others...?? *bangs head*

I thought disease too for the hatch, though I don't know how they'd depict that except by showing bodies. Fucking bastards with their non-revelations! Augh!
halfdutch
May. 26th, 2005 08:46 am (UTC)
Yes. Sawyer will be eatin' mangos and chopping down trees again very soon.

So the whole kidnapping of Claire was just a misdirect for the Waltnapping? Maybe Ethan was just Danielle's boyfriend and doing her a favor?


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halfdutch
May. 26th, 2005 09:15 am (UTC)
Oh no, you're spoiling yourself aren't you? I hope you're at least downloading the eps so you can see them soon!

Or I hope you will get amnesia before this ep airs (hits you on the head with a big stick, runs away)

;-D stalk read away!
lillyjk
May. 26th, 2005 12:20 pm (UTC)
GUH!
OMG MOTHERFUCK!

eh...I had to drug myself (tylenol pm) and go straight to bed after last night's ep. on consideration I refuse to believe that Sawyer is dead, he must be okay. also, I'm really hoping Arzt is the only one who died (although there are rumors that someone else dies in the beginning of season 2). Locke is one crazy sum'bitch. I'm still not convinced about Rouseau, I think maybe she's the one who helped Claire escape. AND THE MONSTER THING IS FREAKING SCARY - whatever it is. Charlie on smack, I will be really pissed off if that happens again. MANLYSOLDIERSayid was super sexy.

I guess the best thing I can say about the finale was NO ANA LUCIA (yay!)
halfdutch
May. 26th, 2005 11:13 pm (UTC)
Re: GUH!
Despite any more death rumors swirling around, I will not believe Sawyer is dead. Even if they show us his cold, lifeless body. No. (shakes head) If anyone goes, I think it will have to be Jin.

Sayid was v. hot - especially as he was washing his face and turning in slow-mo right before Shannon flung herself into his arms. Yay for love, eh?

Yay for being spared Ana Lucia for one more ep. (sighs)

missdarksoul
May. 26th, 2005 12:29 pm (UTC)
I thought it would be soemthign supernatrual too *huffs* It real is odd for Sawyer. lol considering he didn't even tell Kate. lol he shoved the letter in her hand and she worked it out from there. odd
halfdutch
May. 26th, 2005 11:16 pm (UTC)
Yes, some clumsy writing there concerning Sawyer's sudden openness about his dark past. But when he was so hot and heroic, I can overlook it.
frooshoo
May. 26th, 2005 12:36 pm (UTC)
You've never heard "Redemption Song" great song..and in a way it kind of told the future, him trying to stop the guys trying to take Walt.

Just to a few of the questions:

Charlie with that statue, not a good thing.
Jack should have punched Locke out, but at least he knows he's a threat.
There has to be something in that watch, something very important.

I have to do my recap, but everyone is forgetting what the crazy lady said, she said they said they wanted the boy...everyone assumed that was the baby, but Walt was there too, but the bigger question is, why didn't Walt use his "super powers"?
halfdutch
May. 26th, 2005 11:18 pm (UTC)
I downloaded it last night, plus a lot more Bob Marley. Positive vibrations! ;-D Am in the best mood today, even though I should be on pins and needles for Sawyer, I know they won't hurt him. Much! I'm all for nursing him back to help, say by Jack!

Is the watch just a gift, as other posters have said? Or is there more going on with it? Hmmm.

I think Walt's super powers are more for summoning animals and er, visualizing things. Not sure if he can use it as a weapon, although he'll have to learn fast, now, right? I suspect we won't see him much next season and the big story arc is looking for Walt.

And Locke vs. Jack. And whatever they unleashed when they opened the hatch.

And unfortunately, the other survivors ... bleah.
guineverekay
May. 26th, 2005 02:22 pm (UTC)
I know I said I wanted to see Sawyer swimming again...but this is *not* what I had in mind. I just keep getting stuck on the fact that while a bullet to the arm probably wouldn't kill him...he's in the ocean. With a bleeding wound. That can't be good.

I will tune in just to see what happens, but I swear by whatever is unholy that if he dies...I'll never watch again.

All that said, it does seem to me almost as if they are setting up Jin to die saving Sawyer somehow.
guineverekay
May. 26th, 2005 02:26 pm (UTC)
Almost forgot
Did you see Jimmy Kimmell last night? Josh asked Jimmy for a kiss in exchange for bug spray and then squirted him in the face with the spray and told him that he "sure had a pretty" mouth. I fell off my seat laughing.
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cmere
May. 26th, 2005 03:18 pm (UTC)
Creepy fishermen=the others and the chick that threw the bomb=ALEX.

I actually have NO idea what's going to come of Sawyer, Jin, and Michael--they're 15 miles out with no raft and no supplies and no nothing. How....?

Charlie/Virgin!Mary!Smackfarthing OTP!
halfdutch
May. 26th, 2005 11:29 pm (UTC)
I've seen people speculating that the chick is Alex but maybe she's too old? (needs to rewatch a million times)

I think our boys will be able to use the flotsam and jetsam to stay afloat but it will be touch and go and very nervewracking for us. 15 miles is a long way to swim!

;-D There needs to be a Charlie/Smackfarthing OTP icon.

Charlie, nooooooo! But smackedup!hobbit is a good storyline.
spicy_zanella
May. 26th, 2005 04:12 pm (UTC)
got choked up seeing everyone on the plane - esp. Boone, of course. (sniff) And finally we see Sawyer on the plane! Don't know why that was so important to me but we hadn't see it before, so, yay!

ITA

I can't imagine that *this* is the storyline that got the most "Oh yes, that's it!" remarks during the writers' story meeting!

lol

Didn't everyone else expect them to show up in the finale? (Welcome or not.)

is this good or bad?...NO NEW PEOPLE!

also, i don't think danielle is with the others - i think she heard the whispers, thought they were coming for the baby, and decided to get him first so she could use him to barter for alex...and i think danielle was actually helping claire in the flashback...or she already heard the whispers and was trying to get the baby then... but i stand by the fact that ethan was an "other" and unaffiliated with danielle...
spicy_zanella
May. 26th, 2005 04:14 pm (UTC)
why didn't my quotes work?...sorry...
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demonqueen666
May. 26th, 2005 09:03 pm (UTC)
Okay, see...I know Sawyer's not going to die. Really, I know. I swear. It just makes sense, rationally.
The non-rational part of my brain, however, is the much larger part...AND IT IS FREAKING THE FUCK OUT RIGHT NOW.
Just thought you should know.

PS: Jin's watch is important because he was supposed to give it as a present to a business parter of his employer/Sun's father in L.A. He had another one that he gave to a similar partner in Sydney.
halfdutch
May. 26th, 2005 11:26 pm (UTC)
Live, Sawyer, live! if he needs rescuing, blood, mouth to mouth, nursing, whatever, I'm THERE, baby! I refuse to believe they'd really kill him off. So breathe deep and just focus on the shirtlessness, the diving, and the singing. And the heroics. Sigh.

But is there more to the watch than that? Is it just a symbol or is there something in it/about it other than that?
ficangel
May. 26th, 2005 09:42 pm (UTC)
I'm in a place of zen over Sawyer. Josh is this show's Lena Olin, basically, and we all know how that turned out over in Alias-land. Even the people who hate him admit that he's a good presence on the show, and Abrams is an extremely talented whore who realizes that. He's not going to pull the Joss Whedon 'I will give you what you NEED' trick. If/when Sawyer leaves the show, it will be in the final episodes if it's the writers' decision, a fat case of hubris on Josh's part if it's not. And since the person leaving in the fall apparently had a tantrum about it? Yeah, I don't see it being Sawyer.

That's the part of me that's rational. The more emotional part of me has retreated into a tiny shell, and all I can say is that if Sawyer goes I go.

The watch: The watch is why I think Jin will die. Because he's not free, and that is his symbol of that. Sawyer is red herring boy, Michael is needed because he's going to be the driving force behind exploring the island and finding Walt, and Jin is going to die either saving Sawyer or shortly after getting back to the island. In that way, he is finally "free" in the most extreme way possible and he gets to be the good man that his bad choices and the entanglements of his life in Korea would not allow him to be.
halfdutch
May. 26th, 2005 11:10 pm (UTC)
OOh, I'm so behind on Alias ... like 7 episodes! Are you saying it's because he's one of (if not *the*) best actor on the show? Or some sort of jeopardy thing. Guess I'll have to get caught up so I can watch the Alias finale!

Sawyer will live to love and learn and be heroic and snark and be shirtless for many more seasons. That is my fervent belief.

You are a very insightful fangirl. I too think Jin has got to go, although I'm not as happy about as I was before his "I will save you speech." Darn it! Way to make me like someone right before they get offed. What is this, 24?

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jcsbaby
May. 27th, 2005 04:04 am (UTC)
All I know is that Sawyer was fucking HOT!! when "The Others" started talking about taken Walt.

Pissed off Sawyer *drools*
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